VWDiesel.net The IDI, TDI, and mTDI source.
Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: ilikevwdiesel on November 24, 2011, 05:44:52 am
-
this is probably for the Canadian posters here: what is the best way to get a K24 or a T3 from a 1.6 TD onto an AAZ engine? That is, is there a combination of factory parts that make it all a bolt on or do certain parts have to be fabricated? Is the early AAZ/K14 exhaust manifold better than the 1.6 TD unit? Replies from people who have actually done this modification please. Thanks.
-
i'm planning on it next spring and have done lots of reseach.
i plan to use the 1.6 manifold with the T3 attached. its pretty well bolt on besides the oil drain. your best bet from what i've seen and read is to use a pipe tap to tap the flange on the turbo and use a braided line from the turbo down to the block.
you will also need to get or fab up a new down pipe due to the exhaust having a square flange/bolt pattern vs the rectangle one of the AAZ
-
The 1.6 exhaust manifold and T3 is a direct bolt-on and makes a great engine spectacular. I used a custom braided oil feedline which I got made at a hydraulic shop for $20. The drain fittings are below. Top one is the turbo oil outlet fitting and the bottom one (also available from the hydraulic shop) goes into the block to replace the old banjo bolt. Then just craft up a stainless flex line to connect the 2.
Add a manual boost controller and ARP head studs, set the boost at 20psi and watch the tires melt ;D
Downpipes are available from Giles and another exhaust company (I forget which one right now).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/100_1135.jpg)
My custom downpipe
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/Truck/100_3275.jpg)
-
how come you guys don't use the AAZ exhaust manifold that used a K14 turbo? Aren't the ports d shaped to match the AAZ cylinder head? And where did you get that Mk1 downpipe that's nice...the ones I've got came from Techtonics.
-
has anyone put a T3 on an AAZ and tried to use the 1.6 oil pan and turbo oil return line? maybe it would reach down there? :D
-
has anyone put a T3 on an AAZ and tried to use the 1.6 oil pan and turbo oil return line? maybe it would reach down there? :D
AAZ is over a half inch taller than a 1.6, i dont see how the return line is going to magically lengthen its self..
-
did somebody say something?
-
did somebody say something?
are you still all butt hurt about that last arguement?
(i believe the 1.9 also has a different bolt pattern on a the oil pan rail)
-
butt hert.... lol
-
Oil pan bolt pattern is the same between the two engines.
-
should be mature about it, and call it water under the bridge... :)
or you could pack it around with you and hold a grudge like an immature kid.. :'(
your choice. ;)
i already let the issues go, its in the past, who cares? it was just an arguement about trannies, i never called you any bad names, nothing like that.. 8)
-
Oil pan bolt pattern is the same between the two engines.
its the 1.6 and ABA im thinking of then, thanks for the correction.
-
should be mature about it, and call it water under the bridge... :)
or you could pack it around with you and hold a grudge like an immature kid.. :'(
your choice. ;)
i already let the issues go, its in the past, who cares? it was just an arguement about trannies, i never called you any bad names, nothing like that.. 8)
alright we cool
-
how come you guys don't use the AAZ exhaust manifold that used a K14 turbo? Aren't the ports d shaped to match the AAZ cylinder head? And where did you get that Mk1 downpipe that's nice...the ones I've got came from Techtonics.
The D shaped ports are only on the intake. Like this
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/Truck/100_9211.jpg)
-
has anyone put a T3 on an AAZ and tried to use the 1.6 oil pan and turbo oil return line? maybe it would reach down there? :D
Yes, I did till I got my new AAZ pan powdercoated. I had to fudge up a return and seal the bolthole for the AAZ drain.
-
And where did you get that Mk1 downpipe that's nice...the ones I've got came from Techtonics.
It's from Passenger Performance in BC and it's ceramic coated. They've gone out of production now.
-
And where did you get that Mk1 downpipe that's nice...the ones I've got came from Techtonics.
It's from Passenger Performance in BC and it's ceramic coated. They've gone out of production now.
I thought that was one of their creations...it sucks that they're not making them anymore, much better than TT IMO. easier to remove if needed.
-
i don't think there were any oil pan changes other than volume until 99-01 area when they changed the whole 4 cylinder block around.
if it were me i would use the standard size 45 trim t3 with .48 a/r exhaust housing, easy and cheap to find and they sell a compatible exhaust manifold cheap on ebay. the power potential between the two is pretty big, and an aaz is a good size engine it, the 45 trim won't be too big at all. if you're worried about easy install or spool up you could build a hybrid like i have, use the center section turbine wheel and exhaust housing from the vw t3, and then use the compressor wheel and housing from the 45 trim turbo. then you can use the vw exhaust manifold and oil lines and down pipe but u get the advantage of the bigger compressor. 50 trim t3 would be even better.