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Title: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: burn_your_money on October 04, 2011, 07:06:44 pm
Someone recently posted on vortex about this kit. Anyone know anything about it?

Here is the original thread
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5451590-1980-VW-Pickup-5-speed-with-1.6L-Holset-TD-out-of-a&p=73858417#post73858417

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Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: rallydiesel on October 04, 2011, 07:20:05 pm
Interesting LDA. I didn't know Holset made such a small turbo. Never seen anything like it before.
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: vdubspeed on October 04, 2011, 07:25:00 pm
the intake manifold is a modded gasser unit. You can clearly see where the 5th injector would have bolted in on the back/topside. The part that bolts to it however is from a mold for sure. Interesting.
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: Powered by Spearco on October 04, 2011, 08:14:08 pm
The LDA is from a Spearco kit. The intake manifold is from a Fox or a Audi 4000, I have one on my Rabbit. Bigger, longer runners.
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: CRSMP5 on October 04, 2011, 08:20:02 pm
audi manifold at that... 5th injector no fit there on a mk1.. but turbo points wrong way to work on a audi/dasher..

neet set up..
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: RabbitJockey on October 05, 2011, 04:21:32 am
thats really interesting, wtf is the hose going from the intake manifold to the filter inlet tubing?
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: burn_your_money on October 05, 2011, 06:40:16 am
thats really interesting, wtf is the hose going from the intake manifold to the filter inlet tubing?

Just added this picture to the list above
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/IMAG0176.jpg
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on October 05, 2011, 02:18:02 pm
thats really interesting, wtf is the hose going from the intake manifold to the filter inlet tubing?

i would guess its a type of BOV/diverter valve or overboost protection..
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: Powered by Spearco on October 06, 2011, 03:47:00 pm
Oh, this is one of those P.O.S. turbo kits. I've never seen one that looked right.
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: mystery3 on October 06, 2011, 11:34:17 pm
thats really interesting, wtf is the hose going from the intake manifold to the filter inlet tubing?

i would guess its a type of BOV/diverter valve or overboost protection..

I'd guess bpv (bypass valve) as well although welding on the manifold seems like a lot of work and weird placement for one. There are usually easier ways to plumb them.
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: Rockhorse Park on March 27, 2016, 10:47:05 pm
This rig is mine, and I can finally post here.  At the time of the original post by burn_your_money, he was helping me out at the vortex page and this site was not accepting new members.  Anyhoozle, many repairs have been done to this truck in the intervening years, and I've just gotten it back from a major overhaul.
A few problems remain, including a fuel leak where that (LDA? per previous response...not sure what it is) attaches to the top right side of the injector pump.  The leak is either where the lda and its elbow fitting attach to the pump, or where the lda attaches to its fitting.
I posted some new pics here, all cleaned up.   
drive.google.com/open?id=0ByICrKyDPKQaODUzU3EybUUwbTg
You can see the spot in question...it appears to have been JB Welded right there, or somesuch, at some point, perhaps to attempt resolution of this leak.  In any case, I need to figure out how to make it quit leaking though more JB Weld does not sound like a solution.  Suggestions and additional questions mighty welcome.  Local enthusiasts in Oregon, who could go for a good beer, also extremely welcome.
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: ORCoaster on March 28, 2016, 08:55:11 pm
Rockhorse,   I spent some summers long ago in Paisley working for the FS.  Crazy place to live out in the desert. 

Question, is that pipe/tube threaded on either end?  I would think with the way our diesel engines shake at times that JB Weld would not hold well especially against a fuel like diesel.  My thought is that if it is threaded then possibly you could upsize the thread or re tap and insert a bushing.

Not a lot of room there but can you clamp a bracket on it if you did redo some epoxy on it? 
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: RustyCaddy on March 30, 2016, 04:57:54 am
May be just go ahead and swap out the top of a pump if you have a spare available.  Some otherwise good threads could do the trick and stop the leak with a new copper washer?
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: Rockhorse Park on June 01, 2016, 08:38:47 am
I have found a fine photo review of the part, disassembled & reinstalled, posted some years back by Powered by Spearco,
Here: http://vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php/topic,24505.0.html
That's the first one I've seen like mine, which is black & leaks just a tiny bit of fuel at the point where the bottom elbow joins with the fuel adjustment screw area on the IP lid. I'm thinking that the female threads inside may be tweaked, but haven't removed it yet.
I didn't find any detail on its specific functions or adjustment, but the truck runs great & since I don't know a lot about it, I want to be very careful about taking it apart, lest I break it and disable my daily driver.
I don't have another pump to cannibalize for the top. Has anyone got a spare lid and/or one of these Spearco(?) fuel return/boost vacuum aneroids laying around with a good set of threads?
The JB Weld reinforcement was tried with a few strategic tiewraps bracing that repair. It has ALMOST solved the problem, but I'm not yet satisfied, as a very tiny leak is still present.  Dramatic reduction though.
Can anyone tell me more about this part? Is it a Spearco?  Should I find a part# on it somewhere? What is it called, how does it work, can it be replaced, & if not, how might I repair it? Is there a o-ring or copper washer right there that could have dissolved or could a diaphragm inside be torn? Can just the elbow be replaced or rethreaded, if that's the problem?
My rig is a 1980 VW Rabbit Pickup with an engine swap from a (I think) NA 1983-ish Jetta or Golf, which has (I think) been converted to a TD.  This was my late father's car and after sinking a bunch of time & money in it, it runs pretty good.  Zippy. 
It has this (Spearco?) spaceship device on the IP & a tiny Holset turbo whose part number tag is missing. I'm trying to figure out many little things about it, among them, this leak.

Also, any of you who happen to be in Oregon, might as well ask, when are you coming to Fort Rock?  =)
I will buy you a beer & you can scratch your head with me over this fun setup and help me figure out the best day for a VW Diesel Rally.
Sincerely,
Patti



Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 01, 2016, 09:35:45 am
i think your easiest solution would be to swap to a good but used 1.6td pump, dont forget that the injector lines are different as well
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: Rockhorse Park on June 01, 2016, 10:53:13 am
Oh, dear. Replacement pump and replacement injector lines? really? Help me grasp how/why that would be easier than rethreading the aneroid unit. I'm not thinking anything is wrong with the pump or the injector lines, but school me please.
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 01, 2016, 12:23:48 pm
it would be easier to replace it with good working parts than to try and find parts for or repair something which is NLA and very rare.  i have one i can look at and send u measurements if you want, but its a very rare part.  another easy solution for might be to just remove i and run the pump with out it.  its a cool part though if you can repair it.  do you have an pictures so maybe we can understand better what is leaking or broken?
Title: Re: Anyone know what turbo kit this is?
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 01, 2016, 12:27:45 pm
and now that i read again, you might just need an o-ring