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Title: what causes window foggage?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on September 23, 2011, 12:08:22 pm
On my 84.. As soon as I start the car, BAM windows fog up.. And slowly go away as the coolant builds heat.

Is this from a heater core leak?
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: Wayland on September 23, 2011, 01:44:51 pm


Is this from a heater core leak?

That would be my guess.
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on September 23, 2011, 01:48:50 pm
fml.
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: Wayland on September 23, 2011, 01:54:29 pm
At least you don't need to pull the dash on a MKI to replace the heater core.
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: ORCoaster on September 23, 2011, 02:15:55 pm
You got it!  The excess moisture from the leak is getting vaporized into the air that is now blowing on the cold windows.  Then condensing out as fog.  As the heat goes up the problem goes away.  At least the window fog problem.  The leak in the heater is still there and getting worse all the time. 

Pull it and fix it before it is January and you really need the heater to be working properly.
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: maxfax on September 23, 2011, 02:27:28 pm
I was guessing too much hot moist air expelled from the occupant of the car..  :P
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: RabbitJockey on September 23, 2011, 05:21:22 pm
didn't you ever see titanic  :o :o
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: ORCoaster on September 23, 2011, 06:26:30 pm
I re read the OP and I just might have misdiagnosed this one.  Could it be that you place that mega grande latte on the dash then hit the key?  I think it is a heater leak but as we see others think differently.
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on September 23, 2011, 09:44:08 pm
Brett, I'm more than just a pretty face you know. I got the body too  :-* lmao

Titanic, shmanic.. lmao they got preeettyy rowdy lol.

Grande Latte?? oh yah, Star bucks.. only rich people drink that in Canada.. last I checked I daily an 84 vw lmao. (Grande Latte = X-large Timmies lol)

Shyooooot, guess I'm replacing the friggan heater core! Good thing I got a good one in the parts car! I'll be able to experiment how to take it out too! lol
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: mystery3 on September 23, 2011, 11:17:05 pm
I wouldn't use one from a parts car. More than likely you'll just end up doing it over in January like I did, luckily I live in northern California so it was probably in the 40's-50's F.

Basically you just need to loosen the dash, disconnect all the ducts, wires etc from the heater box, pull a few bolts, push the dash up a few inches with your foot or back and wedge the heater box out. It's simple but not easy. It may be helpful to pull the seats, especially if you're any bigger than average.
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: CRSMP5 on September 24, 2011, 06:24:26 am
i gotta ask first...

car got ac??

if ac.. does the ac drain work?? if not that could be whole issue..

next core in ac car = real pain to change.. nothing simple about that...

Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: ORCoaster on September 24, 2011, 08:48:30 am
Good think on the AC drain.  That is a big one on cars with AC.  People complain their cars smell old or musty when that happens.  Is an easy fix to do as the tubes can be cleaned from the bottom up. 
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: CRSMP5 on September 24, 2011, 02:53:57 pm
ive driven and owned mk1s for 21 years... and yes 50% had ac.. so been there done that.. and no one asks.. LOL....

also IMO no mk1 heater core is easy.. non ac the go pedal in way.. ac box has to come out.. pretty much gotta drop them both.. but still no ac easy vs ac... just not simple..

for me on drain.. compressed air.. seperate at box.. blow down first.. then blow up.. that box will hold a good 2 gal of water.. till you go round a turn to get leg wet.. spills out lower heater duct..
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: ORCoaster on September 24, 2011, 04:10:58 pm
Yuck, explain that wet leg to a first date?  Ahh my car took a leak on me, wanna get in?  Take a hike buddy! 
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on September 24, 2011, 07:56:00 pm
windshield leaks, and bad heater cores are all i can think of. rear door seals of mk1 4 dr cars leaks sometimes..
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: mystery3 on September 24, 2011, 09:02:49 pm
Oh yeah, mine originally had a/c. I said it was simple but not easy. It is by no means easy.
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on September 25, 2011, 02:17:30 pm
I do have a windshield drip on heavy heavy rains. There must be a bad spot in the silicone bead i have around the outer seal ;)

Car is Non-AC, so it shouldn't be too bad. It has done this every year I have owned it (5 years) and every winter is a pain in the ass to defrost the window.. figuring it will be worse now that its diesel.. wanted to switch it out before winter! I am totally just gonna pull the seats and dash, i hate not having enough room and the dash comes out with like 7-8 screws.

I know for fact the parts car had a great heater core, as it even being a diesel in the dead of winter when i would go out and run it.. would have the window steaming on the outside in minutes of idling even! When they arent making any real heat! I mean a new one is like $60...
Title: Re: what causes window foggage?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on September 25, 2011, 04:53:37 pm
I do have a windshield drip on heavy heavy rains. There must be a bad spot in the silicone bead i have around the outer seal ;)

Car is Non-AC, so it shouldn't be too bad. It has done this every year I have owned it (5 years) and every winter is a pain in the ass to defrost the window.. figuring it will be worse now that its diesel.. wanted to switch it out before winter! I am totally just gonna pull the seats and dash, i hate not having enough room and the dash comes out with like 7-8 screws.

I know for fact the parts car had a great heater core, as it even being a diesel in the dead of winter when i would go out and run it.. would have the window steaming on the outside in minutes of idling even! When they arent making any real heat! I mean a new one is like $60...

how new is it tho? a used heater core is never a good idea honestly, unless you KNOW when the last time was that it was replaced..