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General Information => Troubleshooting => Topic started by: grape ice cream on July 17, 2011, 11:48:56 pm
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hey all,
i have everything i need for the stock 1.6td oil cooler setup except for the metal coolant line
I was wondering if i should just get a front mounted "air cooled" radiator type oil cooler instead of going through with the stock one. it seems to be more popular and idk if the metal line is expensive.
any advice is appreciated
thanks
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http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=25435.0
That is what I have. The coolant pipes are still available from online places and maybe the dealer if you don't want to go this route. I think german auto has the coolant pipe. I went this way for one reason, I eliminated the stock oil cooler so I wouldn't get antifreeze in the oil if it failed.
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my AHU coolent pipe was full of rust holes.. i disliked the $100+ on a new one so saved lots of coin by building it out of copper.. under $20 in elbows and pipe... will never rust so on.. so think about that as a viable option also..
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Are you running both of those oil coolers at once?
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hey all,
i have everything i need for the stock 1.6td oil cooler setup except for the metal coolant line
I was wondering if i should just get a front mounted "air cooled" radiator type oil cooler instead of going through with the stock one. it seems to be more popular and idk if the metal line is expensive.
any advice is appreciated
thanks
mk1 doesnt take a special metal coolant line.. its the rad bypass hose, and the 4" long connector hose that goes from the metal coolant pipe, to the center barb of the water pump.
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Is anybody on here using an a/c condensor as an oil cooler rad?
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I am not using both coolers at once, Libbybapa is. He uses the stock as a warmer and the one linked as the cooler.
I used a a/c condensor in a bronco but never in a vw. That is a lot of cooling and in the winter around here I think it would be counter productive even with the thermo plate. It still lets 10% oil circulate so the engine isn't shocked by cold oil all the sudden. With something that big it might run cool all the time for our little engines.
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Yeah I think I will have to look for something smaller than the a/c condensor but I definitely need something. Unfortunately I have the added challenge of ridiculously cold winters and insanely hot summers in this god-forsaken place.
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Another question, this appears to be a mount of some sort but i'm unsure of where it actually goes, any help?
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x341/grapeicecream1/dieselmount.jpg)
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x341/grapeicecream1/dieselmount1.jpg)
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That's the passenger side engine mount bracket.
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So, since i already have a passenger engine mount i do not need this
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That is the hard mount to the engine. It bolts to the rubber mount that is on the car. If you have a mount like this on the back of your engine then you don't need this one. If not you probably bought the rubber engine mount that goes in the car and you need both.
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That is the hard mount to the engine. It bolts to the rubber mount that is on the car. If you have a mount like this on the back of your engine then you don't need this one. If not you probably bought the rubber engine mount that goes in the car and you need both.
Alright, well I have a mk1 1.6Na that i'm converting so i'm assuming i do not already have on, so it bolts to a rubber mount in the back near the firewall?
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That's a mk2 rear passenger side mount. So, no you don't need it. It's nice and clean though... ;D
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thank you, and yea if someone wants it feel free to contact me.
But back to my original question, i hooked up my oil cooler and connected the the "T" hose that goes from the water pump to the oil cooler and the little nipple piece.
The other hose goes from the oil cooler to where? I was under the impression it went into a fitting on the metal coolant line but there is none
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Then you need the other metal line. The N/A metal line did not have the input, but the TD line did. I want to say german auto parts online has the new lines.
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Okay thats what i originally thought.
i didnt find one on GAP but i did find a hose i could use but its pretty expensive i think for one hose
http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/product-detail.aspx?keyword=VW+Jetta+Turbo+Diesel+Oil+Cooler+Hose+Kit+HOS-EKI-T++&sku=14095
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Yeah that is for the 2 hose kit, but ver expensive. I would go to the store and buy a copper T fitting and a couple hose clamps instead.
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Thats a much better idea
thank you
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lucked out and got a 3 way hose from a mk2 16v at the junkyard. woo
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its not gonna clear the vacuum pump.. sorry buddy, 16v parts dont work. ask me how i know?
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its not gonna clear the vacuum pump.. sorry buddy, 16v parts dont work. ask me how i know?
diaphragm pumps or vane pumps?
or both
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its not going to clear ANYTHING coming out of the distributor/vacuum pump drive hole.. it goes right over the top of it since the 16v doesnt have a dizzy or anything coming out of that port, just a plug.
a 16v coolant pipe will not work on an 8v engine of any kind. trust me, i tried this a while back, had to cut and weld pieces of 16v and 8v coolant pipes.. was adding a stock oil warmer to my GTI, and i figured the coolant pipe off my 92 GLI woulda worked. but it wasnt even close, so i cut 6" off the water pump end of it, and welded it on to my existing 8v coolant pipe.
so, try finding a coolant pipe off a GTI/GLI 8v, or a newer mk2. some cars had the warmer/cooler, and some didnt. all the 16v and turbo cars had them, along with all 8v GTI/GLI cars.. im talking gas and diesel cars. the coolant pipe is interchangeable.
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Oh i'm sorry when i meant a 3 way hose i meant, the hose,
not the metal coolant line.
it looks sorta like this ( the bottom one)
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x341/grapeicecream1/oilcoolerhose.jpg)
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must be old 16v pieces..
my 16vs have 2 different hoses, where that is a single hose..
those look more like factory TD coolant lines, not 16v..
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must be old 16v pieces..
my 16vs have 2 different hoses, where that is a single hose..
those look more like factory TD coolant lines, not 16v..
Yea i would assume so too, but when i popped the hood i saw it and grabbed it, it was running the same oil cooler as i had also.
I thought i got lucky but I didn't see any other 16v's
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That rear motor mount has the space needed to run the turbo oil drain to the pan by routing it through the middle.
Some folks complain when the oil drain runs right into the motor mount,.. when they have the wrong motor mount.
The drain is often run around the mount but some years ran it through the mount.
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That rear motor mount has the space needed to run the turbo oil drain to the pan by routing it through the middle.
Some folks complain when the oil drain runs right into the motor mount,.. when they have the wrong motor mount.
The drain is often run around the mount but some years ran it through the mount.
what cars are you talking about?
on transverse cars, the oil drain doesnt even come close to sitting behind the passenger side motor mount.. its more between the CV joint and the mount.. not directly behind the mount..
how could the line rub on the mount? my oil line is inches from the mount..
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what cars are you talking about?
MK2s
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never seen a diesel with a oil drain that ran behind that mount. i have 2 proper TD mounts, and they are different, but theres no oil line that runs thru there.. ive looked, never seen a car that the line ran out of the turbo, then over to the engine mount, then back to the pan drain connection..
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Maybe some day you will, ha. ;D
It doesn't usually run back to the oil pan connection, the oil pan connection is in a different place, closer to the mount.
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Maybe some day you will, ha. ;D
It doesn't usually run back to the oil pan connection, the oil pan connection is in a different place, closer to the mount.
both of my real TDs have been the same. neither had the drain line behind the engine mount. idk whats up with them. both mk1 TDs..