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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: hessiandave on April 21, 2011, 12:29:02 pm
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1. Waterpump, I have a brand new pump for my corrado g60 with a metal impeller. Are they the same deals for the diesel engine?
2. I have an oil sump baffle from an aba, and the g60. The aba is a bigger one. The g60 one is smaller and goes over the pickup tube. What one should I use, if its beneficial. I also have a "cam saver" oil baffle for the head, should I use that as well? I have an aba oil pump as well, would that be an upgrade I could use with this engine?
3. Pulleys and belts. No ac, but with power steering. What pulleys should I be using for this setup and would a power steering bracket from a 1.8 bolt into the bottom of the block on the 1.6?
4. Fuel lines. Looking to get new ones from the tank to inj pump. And return. What lines would you recommend?
I really appreciate any help, hints, comments, flaming, etc. This is my 1st diesel and I just want to do everything right the 1st time, with the right parts.
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1. What year is your diesel engine?
2.Use the ABA unit, it comes with an integrated rubber seal and is superior to the stock g60 unit
3. We need to know what diesel engine you have and what year and model your car is.
4. Why?
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Sorry I prob should posted more info on what I gotz.
The engine is 1.6na from an 82 caddy.
The empty hole is an 87 cabriolet. that's why I asked about fuel lines, im taking the main fuel pump and the connecting lines out. Im still going to be using the in tank transfer pump.
Re:#2 the baffle I have isn't that kind with the gasket attached. It is a clip on deal but larger than the g60 one. Ill post pics in a few
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Would I be able to use a crank pulley from a 1.8 gasser? So I could use the power steering. Im just wondering if they would line up correctly with the alt+waterpump, and the outer pulley with the power steering pulley.
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Would I be able to use a crank pulley from a 1.8 gasser? So I could use the power steering. Im just wondering if they would line up correctly with the alt+waterpump, and the outer pulley with the power steering pulley.
gasser pullies and diesel pullies have different offset.. the crank sprocket is 6mm wider than a gasser crank sprocket..
im pretty sure you need appropriate diesel pullies..
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I figured.. Had my fingers crossed that I could use some of the stuff I have in my parts pile....
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Some 16v pullies will work as the 16v belt is as wide as the diesel belt.
the water pump pulley specifically is why I asked what year as the center bore on late pullies is much smaller than earlier units.
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Some 16v pullies will work as the 16v belt is as wide as the diesel belt.
the water pump pulley specifically is why I asked what year as the center bore on late pullies is much smaller than earlier units.
Ill have to check into the 16v pulleys.
Right now I've got the new waterpump on, using the original pulley. Non ac alt bracket. Everything lines up pretty good, just gota 2x check it and find an apropriate belt.
I think im gona end up looping the power steering for now until I figure the pulley situation out...
Im trying to get everything all hooked up by this weekend.
Im gona end up using the 020 from the cabby(with diesel starter), its not gona be daily driven that much, until I source a more suitable diesel friendly geared box.
Still gota figure out my fuel line situation. wire in a glowplug relay and clean up some of the spark ignition wiring I won't need anymore.
Sorry if im going on ranting, im just stoked this car is getting some attention and will be back on the road sometime soon. its been parked in my garage for a year and a half...
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Here she is....
(http://i54.tinypic.com/othlcn.jpg)
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put a manual steering rack on and ditch the PS! It would make belt and pulley situation easier, you could even go with a serp setup. Good to see a diesel vert!
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Some 16v pullies will work as the 16v belt is as wide as the diesel belt.
the water pump pulley specifically is why I asked what year as the center bore on late pullies is much smaller than earlier units.
correct! i keep forgetting the 16v and diesel share the same width crank sprockets..
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I've only seen 3 other diesel cabriolets. 1 from canukland with an AAZ and 2 with 1.6na.
Im callin her the clackriolet...
I was gona loop the PS I really want to end up using it. Im just trying to finish it kind of quick.....
If its not done by may 9th then I won't be able to drive it til july. My rock band is going on a full US tour. So im trying to get it done.
Ill have to check if any of my broskis have a 16v crank sprocket.
Does anybody have advice on what fuel lines I should run?
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Just starting my Cabby conversion. Any insights into the process? You can PM me off list if you would rather. Hayden
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I've only seen 3 other diesel cabriolets. 1 from canukland with an AAZ and 2 with 1.6na.
Ill have to check if any of my broskis have a 16v crank sprocket.
Does anybody have advice on what fuel lines I should run?
There is a 1.6l na cabby in the PNW as well..
The 16v sprocket will not work. Just the pullies.
If you can get viton fuel lines, I would recommend that. mcmastercarr.com sells them.
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I've only seen 3 other diesel cabriolets. 1 from canukland with an AAZ and 2 with 1.6na.
Ill have to check if any of my broskis have a 16v crank sprocket.
Does anybody have advice on what fuel lines I should run?
There is a 1.6l na cabby in the PNW as well..
The 16v sprocket will not work. Just the pullies.
If you can get viton fuel lines, I would recommend that. mcmastercarr.com sells them.
the pitch of the 16v sprocket is different than the pitch of the diesel sprocket.. have you ever noticed how a 16v has more finer teeth on the belt? our diesels have less bigger teeth.. it just doesnt work.. its like putting a 40 pitch chain on a 50 pitch sprocket..
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There is also the part about the crank nose being totally different ;)
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There is also the part about the crank nose being totally different ;)
pretty sure its the same style as the crappy diesel style?
*just went and checked, 16v crank nose and non-TDI crank noses are the same*
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Depends on the year. The earlier (non hydro I think?) have a half moon key for the crank sprocket whereas the 16v has the notch.
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Depends on the year. The earlier (non hydro I think?) have a half moon key for the crank sprocket whereas the 16v has the notch.
those are only on SUPER EARLY engines. pretty sure they only came on the 1.5 engine.. and maybe the first year of the 1.6
but ive only seen the woodruff key'd crank on ancient 1.5 diesels..
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ETKA shows the switch in '83. Since he said 1.6na I figured he meant MK1.
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Crank pully is what I meant not sprocket.
My head is mechanical. Not hydro...
What else..
I was going to get lines to come from the transfer pump, bypassing main pump, into hard lines. But the hard lines come out in the bar on the drivers side, which means id have to run lines under the raintray somehow.
But I was gona run soft lines along the frame.
Im gona check on the 16v pully and see if everything lines up, if it doesn't end up working perfectly ill just loop the power steering until I get the right setup.
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ETKA shows the switch in '83. Since he said 1.6na I figured he meant MK1.
Mines from an 82 rabbit pick up.
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if you loosen the steering rack from the firewall, you can pull the hard lines over to the other side and rebend them. then just shorten as needed. Leaving the lift pump in is fine. I left the lift pump in on my Scirocco and its really handy when changing filters or pumps. Definitely bypass the main pump. It causes a restriction, especially under WOT pulls.
I am using a diesel WP pulley and a PS pump pulley on the WP to drive the alt and the PS. I dont recall what the crank pulley came from. Also, you will need a later style alt bracket that has the provision for cars with PS. It has an extra ear on the bottom to attach the aluminum and steel PS brackets to. I had to make up for a lack of spacing with some round stock tubing to fille the gap for the super long 13mm bolt for the PS. HTH
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Yeah im gonna end up using the hardlines, I really gota check more into it. I've been so busy worrying about getting everything ready ON the engine and whatnot, but admittedly, been somwhat lazy about prepping the car to drop the motor in....
I have a few friends that have done gas to diesel swaps in mk2s, my buddy is running an AAZ in an 87 jetta coupe. He's using the transfer pump.
I've got another buddy who's doing an alh TDI into a mk2 jetta coupe....
So between the both of them, I've been copying their setups. They're gona helpme take out all the spark related wiring out. So it will be a bit tidier. And wire in glowplug relay.
Im doing some serious work on it ALLLLLL day tomorrow. Im probably gona post some pics up ofthe project.
I was a little overwhelmed at first, not really knowing all that much about diesel stuff, but im starting to somewhat understand the simplicity of it now.
Thanks for all the knowledge guys its appreeshed
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Just make sure to route the fuel lines BEFORE you put the engine in ;) Way easier :)
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I stare at an empty bay each time im in my garage... plan of action tomorrow is jack the back end up on stands, remove pump and accumulator. measure lines ill need. Take hardlines, bend them towards the passenger side. Clean engine bay way more. I have all weekend I just need to stay focused. Usually an easy task. Then ADD kicks in. But I want to get as much done possible. So looks like im locking myself in the garage and blasting slayer.
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ETKA shows the switch in '83. Since he said 1.6na I figured he meant MK1.
yea, idk, i know that most of the 1.6 engines ive torn apart, have the notched crank, not the keyed crank. but then again, i havent torn apart many 1.6's, maybe a half dozen..