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Title: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: trent77 on April 16, 2011, 10:05:48 pm
I am thinking the clutch is on its way out. When i am in 5th gear i can get the clutch to slip, granted it has been like this for a year and i have been babying it. When i do change the clutch, can I install the manual adjust clutch cable? I 'm not real hip in the auto adjust cable.
My car is a 91 a2, the engine is a 94 aaz. I look forward to any help. Thanks Trent.

Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: nathan_b on April 16, 2011, 10:21:39 pm
manual adjusting cables are the only way to go! straight swap
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: Quantum TD on April 16, 2011, 10:25:57 pm
You will need a spacer and several washers to do the conversion. It was an OEM thing you could get in the day.
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: trent77 on April 17, 2011, 08:19:01 am
Great! I figured that VW wouldn't have gotten to ambitious and made a completely different design. Who makes the best clutch and pressure  plate for the aaz? Like I said, the old jetta is still getting along, and if I take it easy on her I bet I could get another year out of her. But I'm thinking that early this summer would be a great time. Thanks for the help. Trent
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 17, 2011, 08:21:44 am
if you get the appropriate rubber bushing for the clutch arm (the thick one, off a mk1 4 or 5 spd) it works. then you dont have to have a stack of washers to make everything work..
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: nathan_b on April 17, 2011, 09:11:14 am
x2, done several mk1,2, and 3 cable swaps with no washers
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: the caveman on April 17, 2011, 09:36:28 am
Back in the eighties, when every taxi in Montreal was a diesel jetta, we would change old clutch cables to the self adjusting ones. Would make the clutch last twice as long, if not even longer.
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 17, 2011, 09:55:32 am
Back in the eighties, when every taxi in Montreal was a diesel jetta, we would change old clutch cables to the self adjusting ones. Would make the clutch last twice as long, if not even longer.

the self adjusting cables have way too much pre load on the throw out bearing. i dont even think a self adjusting cable will let a clutch grab 100%
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: the caveman on April 18, 2011, 06:24:03 am
If a clutch wasn't grabbing 100% , it wouldn't last very long
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 18, 2011, 09:18:38 am
If a clutch wasn't grabbing 100% , it wouldn't last very long

well, lasting 3x longer with a manual cable, thats telling me that the auto cable is letting it slip a little bit..

and the fact that my 92 jetta, the clutch slipped from day one, and the cable worked right.. took that clutch out of the car when i tore it down, clutch was still FINE, threw that same clutch in my rabbit, and abused it for a couple more years.. only difference, was that it was in a mk1 now, and it had a manual clutch cable.. i never slipped that clutch in my rabbit..

anyways..

mk2 1.8 8v would slip it fairly easy.

mk1 1.6 TD and it would not slip.

you would think it would have been the other way around..
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: hessiandave on April 18, 2011, 06:11:35 pm
The clutch cable is one of the 1st things I do when id get a "new" car.
And I always have a spare.

I had a cable snap on me when I had a volvo 240, had to power shift most of the way home until I hit some traffic.
Pushing a giant steel brick by yourself in the rain in rush hour traffic is not a good time.

I now have a spare cable in the trunk of my mk2. Just in case...
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 19, 2011, 11:00:05 am
The clutch cable is one of the 1st things I do when id get a "new" car.
And I always have a spare.

I had a cable snap on me when I had a volvo 240, had to power shift most of the way home until I hit some traffic.
Pushing a giant steel brick by yourself in the rain in rush hour traffic is not a good time.

I now have a spare cable in the trunk of my mk2. Just in case...

i had to drive my GTI 300 miles with a twanged cable.. didnt have a spare, or any money.

good thing it was 10pm when i was going thru Portland..

when i had to stop, i would shut it off, and when i had to go again, i would just start it in gear.. poor starter..
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: the caveman on April 19, 2011, 04:42:15 pm
Not a diesel, but when I had Sanford [it was a red fox, get it ? ] we were on our way for a round trip to Chicago from Montreal. A few kms before Toronto, while trying to leave the gas station I couldn't get it into 1st. Realized the clutch was dying fast. The border at detroit was real fun, but we managed to get to Chicago and back - 2300kms-1500 miles .Those cars can really handle abuse.
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: trent77 on April 19, 2011, 07:41:15 pm
So now to start another debate....who makes a good clutch, pressure plate, and throw out bearing? And where should I get it? I have a NAPA locally, not sure of the thoughts of their stuff. Anyhow, let the debate begin.
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: nathan_b on April 19, 2011, 10:04:33 pm
sachs usually sells pretty good stuff.
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: theman53 on April 20, 2011, 08:16:09 am
I like clutchnet.com  Some gave it a bad rap for the rod drilling holes into the cover, but those same guys would never answer me if they replaced the rod or used the old one. If the rod isn't cone shaped anymore the beefy clutches will take advantage. I have 15,000 miles on mine no issues at all.
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 20, 2011, 10:35:18 am
sachs usually sells pretty good stuff.

if you need a good stock type clutch, and you have a 210mm flywheel laying around, you can change your clutch, and do an upgrade at the same time.. should have a 200mm clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel.. the 210mm unit is a nice upgrade.

yes, sachs stuff is generally pretty good quality..
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: trent77 on April 20, 2011, 08:28:36 pm
where can i get the sachs stuff? I will also check out clutchnet.
Title: Re: new clutch time soon..i believe. can I use the manual adjust cable?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 21, 2011, 09:42:16 am
any aoto parts store should be able to get sachs super set clutches..