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Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: SMOKEYDUB on January 19, 2006, 05:29:56 pm
all diesels are welcome but prefer to hear about the vws. HP numbers TQ numbers 1/4 mile times anything.

I will start i had a 1986 jetta td full interior everything not lightened that ran a fairly impressive 16.7 @84 mph in the 1/4 mile

Jeff



( DARKNESS IS SPREADING EVERYONE)
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Dr. Diesel on January 19, 2006, 10:25:02 pm
my first TD (A2 Jetta) had 383000km, and a broken shut wastegate. Did 18.2 Q-mile and beat a cammed, dual exhaust 82 impala doing it. I was the second slowest car there that day!
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Audi80 on January 19, 2006, 11:10:24 pm
My ī85 Audi 80 1,6TD. Stock body, not lightened. 152hp/286nm at wheels. Did quarter at 15,5/91.3mph.

And couple other local diesels ~350-400hp:
Volvo 240 2,8D 12,8@~110
W123 Mercedes 300D 12,7@110
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: eightvalve on January 20, 2006, 06:58:59 am
Hi all, just joined up.

Central VW in the UK has a MK2 golf running 13.03 @ 107mph 1/4 mile.
Present horse power is 250.5 flywheel and 232 at the wheels over 380 ftlb torque. The site hasnt been updated for a while, so im sure he's upped the power some more.

Heres there site.
http://www.centralvwaudi.com/tdi.htm
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on January 20, 2006, 07:07:09 am
That is TDI-RS... and I'm not sure that the motor they mention that made those runs is even in the car anymore. It was sold to a friend of his who has it now (its a 1z block base with 2.5 van pistons and deeper valve reliefs cut). TDI-RS or "simon" is now working on a 2.0 16v PD if i remember correctly...

Joe
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: malone on January 20, 2006, 07:24:22 am
Quote from: "RabbitGTDguy"
That is TDI-RS... and I'm not sure that the motor they mention that made those runs is even in the car anymore. It was sold to a friend of his who has it now (its a 1z block base with 2.5 van pistons and deeper valve reliefs cut). TDI-RS or "simon" is now working on a 2.0 16v PD if i remember correctly...

Joe


That's correct and the turbo on his old 1Z is some sort of GT25/28 hybrid with the turbine wheel cut back a little bit. I'll need to dig up tdirs (Simon)'s emails as it's been a couple years. He may also have run a GTI gasser cam and he had to grind parts of the head to clear the cam rotation. "H" beam rods were also installed, the block needed notching/grinding to clear the rods. He mentioned methanol/water injection a few times, not sure if he used that to run low 13's.

IIRC over at tdiclub.com QuickTD posted a link to a video of a foreign 1.9TD in a MK3 style body that went through the 1/4 mile in 13 seconds without too much smoke. That was one or two years ago, I tried going bcak to that site to see if the video still loads, but the site no longer exists.
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: fspGTD on January 20, 2006, 12:01:29 pm
It's certainly not a hosepower record setter, but the moderately tuned 1.6 VNTD Rabbit daily driver (peak boost not greater than 12.5-13 psi and just a light whisp of smoke) turned a respectable 16.5 best 1/4 mile ET and 82.5 mph best trap speed.

I attribute a lot of the performance to the engine's broad powerband (due to the tuned governor and VNT turbo) and the 2-door Rabbit chassis' light weight.  More info:

http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1694&start=17
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: malone on January 20, 2006, 01:01:34 pm
That is impressive! Sounds like it's solidly tuned.. one of my favourite IDIs. My friend's 2.0L 16v is fun to drive and traps 80-85mph. I'll take that 1.6 VNTD anyday!

His 16v is no match for my 1.6 though.. I'll have 1/4 mile #s this season.
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: SMOKEYDUB on January 20, 2006, 03:12:16 pm
I like the numbers im seeing. Hopefully this summer i can run low 14s or high 13s on slicks.  :twisted:
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Audi80 on January 21, 2006, 12:47:43 am
Almost had forgotten. Few years ago there was a guy who ran 13,7 with 1,9TD Caddy. I heard that he blew a con rod at 50+psi boost. Havenīt heard of him since.
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: dieselpete on January 30, 2006, 07:35:12 am
hey smokeydub
what mods do you have so far
please post  thanks



               cheers pete
Title: Re: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: HP on January 30, 2006, 08:31:05 am
Quote from: "SMOKEYDUB"
HP numbers TQ numbers

Where are these, guys?
And the 0-100km/h seconds?  :D
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Audi80 on January 30, 2006, 10:51:43 am
HP and TQ (http://www.kotinet.com/matti.farm/Audi/117-1746_img.jpg) at wheels. 0-91,4km/h = 6,7 so 0-100km/h would be ~7,5 sec. Timeslip (http://www.kotinet.com/matti.farm/Audi/119-1942_img.jpg)
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: HP on January 30, 2006, 11:06:07 am
pretty impressive. man. That's a 1.6L, right? which turbo?
Reliability, overheating?? any problems?
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Audi80 on January 30, 2006, 11:23:18 am
Yes itīs 1,6. Turbo is Garrett VNT20, Iīm looking for a bigger VNT :twisted:
Overheating: Yes, => one cracked head, from intake runner to prechamber. Now I have changed bigger radiator and added a oil cooler. Will see the results at summer.
Problems: Clutch slipped, changed a 3 pad copper disc => front tires wear out in couple months  :lol:
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: HP on January 30, 2006, 11:36:59 am
:lol:

And couldn't u come with that power output with the K24? It wouldn't be very efficient, is that?
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: SMOKEYDUB on January 30, 2006, 03:54:35 pm
currently the bottom end of my engine is finished along with a ported and polished cyl. head (polished  like glass) soon to have a nice big camshaft, ported and polished exhaust manifold, a pump modded by me soon to have an 11 mm head and a T3/T4 turbo which i have already made up the bracketry to.and im still thinking about just a small spray of nitrous to get that turbo spooling.

right now the car is 52 hp non turbo it sucks and i want it to die :D

Jeff
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: SMOKEYDUB on February 02, 2006, 03:10:07 pm
Hey I told you what i have. any comments? what do you have?
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Otis2 on February 02, 2006, 06:14:32 pm
Audi80, on your dyno chart, the words "ahtopaine:  1.9 bar" appear.

Does that mean you were running peak turbo boost pressure of 1.9 bar (ie. 28 psi)?
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Audi80 on February 03, 2006, 06:04:42 am
Quote from: "Otis2"
Audi80, on your dyno chart, the words "ahtopaine:  1.9 bar" appear.

Does that mean you were running peak turbo boost pressure of 1.9 bar (ie. 28 psi)?


That is correct. Max boost ~28psi
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Zeitgeist on February 04, 2006, 10:52:47 pm
Not super impressive, but 8.0 sec 0-60mph sure beats stock 12.0 sec specs.(http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/cropped%20frontend_7-30%20jpg.jpg)  


That's better than a gasser Benz in the same year/chassis...it's in a wagon, btw.
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: dubCanuck1 on February 05, 2006, 12:52:15 am
89 Diesel ME - Stock

1/4 mile ->Yes
HP - I can stop the crank by hand.
TQ - I have a whole box of Torx bits, so.....yes.






 :shock:  :lol:  :wink:  :oops:
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: Audi80 on February 05, 2006, 12:53:44 am
Quote from: "Zeitgeist"
Not super impressive, but 8.0 sec 0-60mph sure beats stock 12.0 sec specs.

That's better than a gasser Benz in the same year/chassis...it's in a wagon, btw.


You probably have seen these :wink:

http://www.mersuforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13577
http://www.teamrwd.com/dieselboost/videos/dslboost05.wmv
Title: Who has the quickest TD or diesel
Post by: SMOKEYDUB on February 05, 2006, 07:46:06 am
i have to start working on my TD soon because I have almost had enough of my N/A and i know for sure its had enough for me. April 9th is the first test and tune night at toronto motorsprts dragway (cayuga). I am dieing I need some BOOOOOST!!!