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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: dankcorey22 on March 30, 2011, 09:52:03 am
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I ordered 4 injectors from http://www.hansdieselparts.com/16TDInjector.htm
The injectors i got, all 4 of them had one return nipple on them.
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/dankcorey22/0328112036.jpg)
Then the nozzle looked like it wasnt even a real nozzle just a blank
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/dankcorey22/0328112043.jpg)
Has anyone else ordered these and had this problem?
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Search prothe on the different vw forums and you will see he has a spotty record for quality from many customers. I used germanautoparts.com for my engine parts and had no issues. Good luck.
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That's effing awesome!
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Good thing for that 2 year guarantee ???
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Thats why i tried him cause his 2 year guarantee plus some people has had good luck with his injectors
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i guess install them and see how they run?
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Holy crapola Corey ... those are really a bad joke.
Must be a fresh batch of rejects.
No one else has spoken of those characteristics before.
Bosch nozzles have gone up almost double and triple at most suppliers. They were $10 each for long time. I think one place still has them for $15. Can you pop test injectors at your tech school - and rebuild your old ones ?
You can make 130-135 injs into 155 with proper shims
You'd have to use some creative plumbing with a handful of T's to run those single spouts. But the nozzle looks like a solid piece with a nipple protrusion ... lmao
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return/exchange em... not sure how you can make it work with only one return. I have a set of the 135 bar versions with no issues.
*edit-> I guess you try some combination of "t" connectors and you could run em as Baron said, 1->2->4 ?
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Momma always says buying from Prothe is like a box of chocolates..
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Holy crapola Corey ... those are really a bad joke.
Must be a fresh batch of rejects.
No one else has spoken of those characteristics before.
Bosch nozzles have gone up almost double and triple at most suppliers. They were $10 each for long time. I think one place still has them for $15. Can you pop test injectors at your tech school - and rebuild your old ones ?
You can make 130-135 injs into 155 with proper shims
You'd have to use some creative plumbing with a handful of T's to run those single spouts. But the nozzle looks like a solid piece with a nipple protrusion ... lmao
Haha some stuff from prothe is a joke lmao... IDK! I think im going to return them and get the injector from somewhere else. The only reason i dont pop test them at my tech school is because i dont have the right shims to put in the injector. I have one 155 BAR the rest are 135 BAR.
Where is a well known high quality place to buy these 155 BAR injectors?
Thanks everyone for feedback
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I don't think Bosch has started offering the 155's new again ... Yet.
They have brought the 130-135's back new, recently. (about 80-100 each)
Last check, AutohausAZ and Partsgeek offered reman'd Bosch 155's for around 40 each - plus a core charge.
A good Bosch authorized fuel shop can rebuild whatever you have into 155's with new Bosch nozzles for about 30-40 each. Depending what they charge for the nozzles now - might be higher. You might be better to supply them the nozzles basing on their price quotes ... its a gamble though i guess. Some rumors of hit/miss nozzles now being made in India for Bosch.
One thing about them doing them and supplying the nozzles too - less hassle if a nozzle has a bad spray pattern/defect. They just pull another one from stock and you don't have to bother with returns etc...
If you can pop test and spray test at tech school, reman'd Bosch from AhAZ or Pgeek is probly worth considering.
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I think ill go the route of AutohausAZ ive bought alot from them and the quality is there for sure!
39 dollars isnt bad at all. http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=die1wj55tkcbilvhwkpecc45&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1282700@JETTA%20DELUXE%20TDI&year=1983&cid=22@Fuel%20%26%20Air%20System&gid=11167@Diesel%20Injector
when i order them probably next week ill let every one know what the pop pressure and spray pattern are. Im sure they both will be on point.
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I'm running injectors from thedieselstore.com. No core unless you don't return your's and they also pay return shipping.
-Todd
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Those injectors are NA injectors only 135 BAR
Thanks anyways man
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They say they rebuild them inhouse, so maybe they'd be willing to recalibrate a set, to order.
-Todd
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I also got injectors from germanautoparts.com
they seem to be working well.
Those return nipples are brittle as all hell though.
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I ordered these http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=zuku53554yfexdu3uirefdqn&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1282700@JETTA%20DELUXE%20TDI&year=1983&cid=22@Fuel%20%26%20Air%20System&gid=11167@Diesel%20Injector
They look to be pretty decent ill tell you how they turn out after i pop test them.
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Prothe moves a lot of products.
Suppose there is no way he himself could inspect every incoming shipment of restock from china. Or quality control every outgoing sale of product.
But as fate kind of has it now, he missed a golden opportunity at a chance for some Good Publicity on these Injectors.
He might have a whole pallet crate full of these new rejects.
Ouch
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He did tell me when i emailed him about those injectors, i asked him to check all of the ones he had.
He said all of the ones he had in stock were like that. Including the 155 TUNING ??? ones... whatever they are lol
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Are you saying they have no hole? The picture is too blurred.
I used to think that nozzles came with the torus/doughnut shape built in; but then I'd never seen a new one, something I've delayed for years on the basis of the quality issue after France stopped making them for Bosch.
All mine were rescues from breakers.
I recently imported some [4] new old stock ones from Canada, sealed in 'jelly'.
Alas I managed to break one rear prong [never done that before] and one needle seems too slack in the holder.
So perhaps quality went down in France towards the end, so I still have never had a brand new set in my Quantum
Turkey makes some apparently :o
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im saying that the nozzle part of the injector look as if there was no holes where the nipple sticks out. Im used to seeing even a little holes. I guess my vision is getting worse 8) lol
Im thinking there was a blank nozzle in there. so he would want customers to buy the nozzles separate but IDK i could be wrong. it doesnt matter anymore ive sent them back
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im saying that the nozzle part of the injector look as if there was no holes where the nipple sticks out. Im used to seeing even a little holes. I guess my vision is getting worse 8) lol
Im thinking there was a blank nozzle in there. so he would want customers to buy the nozzles separate but IDK i could be wrong. it doesnt matter anymore ive sent them back
H'mm if there were no hole then the needle tip would be broken off too. ... Yeah my eyesight is starting to play up too, just as I'm building my library in my attic.
Low energy light bulbs and comp screens doing my peepers in IMO :(
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I think ill go the route of AutohausAZ ive bought alot from them and the quality is there for sure!
39 dollars isnt bad at all. http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=die1wj55tkcbilvhwkpecc45&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1282700@JETTA%20DELUXE%20TDI&year=1983&cid=22@Fuel%20%26%20Air%20System&gid=11167@Diesel%20Injector
when i order them probably next week ill let every one know what the pop pressure and spray pattern are. Im sure they both will be on point.
bump from the dead kinda? do these work for my diesel? 1.9TD AAZ? Im having trouble finding specific information.
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nobody?
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No they wont
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bump from the dead kinda? do these work for my diesel? 1.9TD AAZ? Im having trouble finding specific information.
The AAZ injectors were originally a dual stage.
I forgot why tho.
Not sure if you can even still get the dual stage ones now.
I'm gonna think you could use 1.6 TD injectors, but might not be completely optimal.
One thing to try - go on AutohausAZ website - plug in your car data - and see if they offer Reman'd Bosch injectors for it.
Another thing to try is to email or call Giles at Performance Diesel in Markham Ontario and get his wisdom/verdict about it. If you need his contact info it is listed in the vendor section of this forum.
You could also inquire the cost to have him rebuild your old ones.
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bump from the dead kinda? do these work for my diesel? 1.9TD AAZ? Im having trouble finding specific information.
The AAZ injectors were originally a dual stage.
I forgot why tho.
Not sure if you can even still get the dual stage ones now.
I'm gonna think you could use 1.6 TD injectors, but might not be completely optimal.
One thing to try - go on AutohausAZ website - plug in your car data - and see if they offer Reman'd Bosch injectors for it.
Another thing to try is to email or call Giles at Performance Diesel in Markham Ontario and get his wisdom/verdict about it. If you need his contact info it is listed in the vendor section of this forum.
You could also inquire the cost to have him rebuild your old ones.
the injection lines on an AAZ are for really tall injectors.. they wont fit on the 1.6 injectors..
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Good info ROR.
Digi K, if you had a couple versions of 1.6 lines laying around - you "might" could find a version of bends that would allow the swap to 1.6 injectors. And thats just a wild shot in the dark.
Or maybe 1.9 NA lines.
idunno
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Good info ROR.
Digi K, if you had a couple versions of 1.6 lines laying around - you "might" could find a version of bends that would allow the swap to 1.6 injectors. And thats just a wild shot in the dark.
Or maybe 1.9 NA lines.
idunno
how do I get ahold of giles. his site is down.
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[email protected]
This:
http://www.performancediesel.ca/
is working fine for me??
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apparently its back up :)
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Pop tested my AutohausAZ 155 bar injectors the other day.
all 4 sprayed perfect then the pop pressure was between 155 and 160 Bars on all 4
Very Happy!
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Excellent Report
Congrats
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Man I cant wait to get that thing running! only thing between us is time :'(
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Man I cant wait to get that thing running! only thing between us is time :'(
Ditto here. :'(