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For Sale/Looking For => Parts for Sale/Wanted => Topic started by: ELVIS on January 19, 2011, 11:41:44 am
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Have listed 3 AAZ type injector pumps on ebay.
They are NOS (New Old Stock). Came direct from an MOD contractor whom specialised in Special Vehicle Development.( http://www.adrianstomcat.co.uk/LSV.htm different vehicle base/design but you get the idea!)
The projects were destined to have AAZs but ended up going Tdi instead. (interstestingly enough i have seen a MOD spec Tdi and the engine number and Injector pump number are also unique codes/numbers)
Have checked pump numbers and they are AAZ based but without idle control same as AAZ. Tech books giving them a working range from 1k-4k rpm.
Never been run/seen fuel/oil other than assembly oil when made!
All injector/fuel lines/ports are capped. These have never left a dry storeroom and have been kept in vented plastic bags in tran***e/storage cases.
£200 inc delivery.If shipped outside UK shipping will be at cost and sent insured/signed for.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320644542636&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
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Those don't look like any AAZ pump I've ever seen, but I live in the USA and haven't seen many.
They look like 1989-1992 1.6NA pumps with the altitude compensator, but for some reason, they lack the connector rod on the cold-start lever for throttle increase.
I'd be leery. I've seen alot of "NOS" pumps on ebay that turned out to be generator pumps.
If you could provide confirmation of fitment, we might be interested.
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it is an AAZ type pump, look at the long delivery valves.. and it has VW stamped right on it.
not gonna say for sure if its AAZ tho, could be off some other engine code.
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For all you doubters..............
For starters i have listed them as 'AAZ type' NOT AAZ pumps.Military spec 1.9 Tds were not 'badged' as AAZs. If you do your research you will see that these are listed with VW (not sure if its on ETKA/ETOS though) as 'Industrial Motor' (not generator) 1k - 4krpm.
As previous they were destined for military special vehicles contractor use, the project only being dropped for TDis.I have seen a mil spec TDi in the flesh and it is identical to a AHU in every way except badged as a AH* ( ;)) the pump and ECU on these were also badged with unique VW codes that differed slightly to OE/civvy use.
Other parts i have got privy to come with genuine/OE parts boxes/sticker but on the bottom part of the sticker under the part number it has the contractors name stamped on it where they dealt with VW R+D directly.
So, as per ad.............................
They are from a 1.9Td that was destined for 'road' use and NOT as a stationary engine and were from an AAZ type engine. (was a rebadged AAZ/1.9 Td).
Any more Qs ? Doubts?
GENUINE Bosch/VW - if you dont want to use the pump 'as is' they are an ideal core for rebuild to your spec as they are brand new NOT chinese copies. Happy for anyone in UK to independantly view one to verify authenticity.
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pfft, i would throw new seals in it if needed, and just run it like it is.
i have no doubt they are real..
generator pumps have like 2500 rpm governors..
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My 1.6L NA has the long delivery valves.
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they should be different than the AAZ ones, unless someone put AAZ DVs in it..
1.6 lines are not supposed to fit right with long DVs
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generator pumps have like 2500 rpm governors..
cheers for the support in the face of the doubters :)
As previous - anyone who is genuinely interested rather than posting supposition can easily take part number to VW (as i did) to confirm/check spec. I *guess* any half decent Bosch dealer will be able to give details via ID number.
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That's a good price on those pumps Elvis. if I had the coin I'd buy one for sure. By any chance have you priced shipping for one of these units to the US? Maybe via the US Postal Service? My zip is 04253. Interested, maybe I can come up with the cash.
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Do you know/guess rough weight of a pump ? Im useless at guessing!!
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5 to 7 kg? just guessing... ???
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Righto , more info. Have just looked on ETOS and done some more research.................
These were fitted to ADE code engines that appear to have been sold 'your side' of the pond
http://www.gex.com/vw-jetta-engines.htm
Interestingly enough the engine code (ADE ) is grouped with the AAZ and is listed as a 1.9Td aswell. VW parts programme shows it as being 55kw(74bhp).
I have tried doing a 'screen grab' but pic wont come out big enough!! Anyone with ETKA/ETOS will/should be able to come up these parts/corroborate them.
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£38.84 is cheapest i can find so far but thats only insured to £50. Will try and find out extra insurance cost- cant imagine it being too much!
That price is based on 7kg . £32.20 for 5kg. So that sort of figure i guess. Will try and weigh one tomorrow at the post office to get a better idea if thats any use?
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I appreciate you looking but that would put the whole deal up around 400 US and I don't have that to drop on a pump right now. Even that price is a deal tho.
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No worries chap! :)
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I'm not trying to bash. I'm just airing on the side of caution. We don't see the range of diesel applications in the US. That privilege belongs to the Canadians. So. from our perspective, if it looks like a duck...
I'm just going on what I've seen in 25+ years tinkering on these turds. The pump body looks like an AAZ candidate, but the input shaft looks a bit narrow. I (think) that some AAZ had a thicker one. Could be wrong on that one. But the top certainly does NOT look like any AAZ I've personally seen, nor any 1.6TD I've seen. But it's the spitting image of a late 80s early 90s 1.6NA pump on USA models with altitude compensation. Obviously, the only way to really tell what this pump is, is to measure the dist. shaft and look at the boost pin.
If it has all the attributes of an AAZ pump (10 or 11mm shaft) and has a 1.6TD-style boost pin, then it could be the best of both worlds. But, as some know, using the pump numbers is often a hairy game, and at the moment, $400 is a chunk of change to gamble on a "black box".
My comments were intended to seek affirmation from our neighbors to the north. They know these a bit more-intimately than we do. I could have worded it a bit better, but the gauntlet was tossed. Sorry if it was offensive (or if this is offensive). If I had money to toss around, I'd take the gamble. But math is hard, and I can't figure out what I'd be paying. ;)
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There are/were godknowshowmany different AAZ pumps in the UK and AFAIK majority were 9mm and only the holy grail had 10mm.Havnt heard or seen of an 11mm one but i dont profess to be an expert. Did you get 11mm AAZ pumps in US?
There were also 2 possibly 3 pump tops in UK - one even had the LDA top half missing completely and replaced with a flat plate!
The shaft is 9mm , this is in/part of the Bosch code as per photo.
The pump top is similar/same as a few SB/RA pumps i have had (1.6GTD) that incorporated the boost pin as per AAZ/GTD. If you look ontop of the LDA is has the port blanked with a yellow plug indicating the need to put the manifold/LDA pipe in place.
Might just whip the top off one on Monday and have a cheeky nosey ;D
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Has star wheel same as GTD/some UK AAZs and has a GTD style boost pin (not eco pin)
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being from the us of a we never got the love of aaz engines.. but in generater form.. but... my family did buy one of these engines and put it in my brothers car.. na to begin with and turbo later.. since then the stock gen pump was removed in search of better power.. (more smoke!) ha.. so the gen pump got taken apart to look and see what was different.. the normal throttle spring pack is replaced with a certain rpm spring from what i under stood.. more like the cummins ve pump.. so getting to the point.. if it is a gen turbo pump.. then you probably could just change the throttle shaft were the throttle spring pack attaches to an normal a "normal" style spring pack and you'd have normal rpm range.. but i'd be happy with the 1k-4k for daily driver perposes anyways.. you don't need 6K ha...
so BUMP for NOS pumps