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General Information => General => Topic started by: 8v-of-fury on January 15, 2011, 01:32:53 pm
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I am in the middle of swapping a mk2 diesel in to my mk1 that originally had the gasser. The throttle cables seem to be a different length?? The gasser one seems to be longer.. Wuhoh.
What can I do to remedy this?
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gasser cable should be shorter..
install a diesel T cable.. problem solved.
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k3vo! I made up a little bracket to make the slack in the cable be taken up.
Diesel T cable? What is this?
NEW QUESTION
did an mk1 ever come equipped with a T3 turbo'd TD engine?
Mk1 and Mk2 downpipes from the turbo itself must be different... but not by much sadly. There is like an inch to make it work.. crapp
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pretty positive that mk1s did come with T3 turbos.. i have a mk1 T3 downpipe..
diesel T cable = diesel throttle cable..
gasser throttle cables had nuts to adjust them, diesels had a clip.
too bad you wernt closer, ive got a PILE of mk1 diesel t-cables.
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(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3657/img5231k.jpg)
this is the problem I ran into. It's not the length, but how the end attaches that is the problem. best to just get the diesel cable if you have it. the bottom cable is the gasser obviously, and I was putting a mk1 diesel into a mk2
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Well I swapped from a 91 in to an 84 and the pump ends were identical. The problem was the cable being too long from the stop to the throttle lever..
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swapping a mk2 diesel in to my mk1 that originally had the gasser. .
its a gasser setup....... ;D. you need da deezul cabel
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just put the right throttle cable on it yo..
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doooooooooood, on the contrary. I have been using the gasser cable since Saturday, the stop just needed to be lengthened further back from the pump arm. No biggy, love to engineer stuff ;)
The mk1 Jetta CIS equipped (not sure for mk1 carb'd vehicles), and mk2 Jetta digi equipped gassers have the same end as we require on our diesel pumps.
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(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3657/img5231k.jpg)
this is the problem I ran into. It's not the length, but how the end attaches that is the problem. best to just get the diesel cable if you have it. the bottom cable is the gasser obviously, and I was putting a mk1 diesel into a mk2
all my gasser cables have a ball end, crimped on, not the socket with the clip around it..
none of my gasser throttle cables are even close to the diesel cables.
im thinking someone put a diesel cable on your gasser, because the gasser throttle bodys have the ball connection, but its usually not used for the throttle cable, its usually for cruise control.
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(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3657/img5231k.jpg)
All my cars (an 81 diesel, two 84 gas 1.7, 90 gas 1.8, two 91 diesels, and a 94 2.0) have the top throttle cable in the quoted picture. I don't think somebody swapped out the cables on all 4 of the gasser cars i have in my driveway ;)
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hate to say it, but the bottom cable in that picture above was in a 89 pirelli jetta. this one. It was a 1.8 RD motor.
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/219/img4672mk7.jpg)
the bottom cable is definitely a gasser one..... ;D but hey; me and kevin can go on like this forever. We're proud oregonians :P
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thats whaaack.
Seriously, all Gassers I have seen or done anything with have been the top cable.
Maybe its a Canada thing?
Ahh the RD, 9.1 CR and on CIS-E.. Could be why, however my two gas mk1's are CIS as well..
Did you swap out that RD for a Diesel?
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thats whaaack. No its not
Seriously, all Gassers I have seen or done anything with have been the top cable. How many have you seen other than those 4 ;D
Maybe its a Canada thing? lots of things are canada things eh...but not in this case
Ahh the RD, 9.1 CR and on CIS-E.. Could be why, however my two gas mk1's are CIS as well..
actually, the rd was a high compression motor. it was 10.5:1. Had a blast with it for about an hour and a half till it grenaded.
Did you swap out that RD for a Diesel?
maybe...
best thing that ever happened to that car
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=19324.0
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thats whaaack.
Seriously, all Gassers I have seen or done anything with have been the top cable.
Maybe its a Canada thing?
Ahh the RD, 9.1 CR and on CIS-E.. Could be why, however my two gas mk1's are CIS as well..
Did you swap out that RD for a Diesel?
the bottom cable is a gasser cable, the top one is diesel.
both my 92 jettas (8v and 16v), 85 GTI, 80 Rabbit, 86 golf, 85 golf, and my buddies gassers all have the bottom cable.
and oh yea, RD was 10:1 comp. basically the same engine as what was in my 85 GTI. it has an HT.
the CIS-E on them is so awesome.. and they were the first engines that got VWs knock sensing ignition system.
105 hp factory..
Jeremy, you basically have WEIRD cars.. or canadians just got the superior throttle cable setup. cause if you are missing the little spring retaining clip for the gasser cable, you might as well plan on popping your hood every day to re-connect the throttle cable..
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Nope ;)
RD was 9.0cr.You were right about the HT though, its 10.0
http://www.autotech.com/appchart.htm
I've seen plenty, I just have those 4 in my driveway right now lol. Its the same end as the diesels.. but a longer distance between the throttle end and the stop.
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jeremy, that table is wrong..
a RD is most definitely 10:1
and has more hp than my HT..
not less compression and less HP
they are almost identical engines. the only thing making the RD different was the fact it had a dual outlet manifold and downpipe..
and USA spec cars all have the same throttle cable.. and they are way different than all the ones you have.
like i said, the better part of 10 gasser VWs i have spent lots of time with in the last year, all had the same style of cable, and its WAY DIFFERENT from a diesel cable. they take the bottom cable with the crimped on ball end..
im not saying your cables are wrong.
im just saying that they are different for sure. we never got diesel throttle cables on our gassers in this country.
all the gasser cables i have experience with, are WAY TOO SHORT to work on a diesel, and would take a good amount of fabrication to make them work..
very weird..
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Have you had any experience with any mk1 gassers?? That's what I swapped in too. They are too long to work in stock form on our pumps.. But moving the stop back about 6" worked.
I ownder ehy the difference? Could it be all mine are products of the wolfsburg plant?
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yea, i know the mk1 gasser throttle cable is way too long, but just the cable, not the sheath..
who knows what the difference might be.. but your canadian stuff is weird. only VW ive seen with the diesel cable end is a diesel.. lol.
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Could it be all mine are products of the wolfsburg plant?
No all of yours are the products of numnuts jerry rigging cars for decades... ;D
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Lmao. Its possible, but very unlikely someone converted all these cars to use diesel cables.. I'm sure gasser cables are just as easily obtained :p
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(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm307/J_holubek/Diesel/IMG00432-20110124-1722.jpg)
The lengthened throttle stop. And the throttle cable that was original to the CIS Basic that this car had last week ;)