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Title: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 16, 2010, 09:19:04 pm
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-Owen
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: Powered by Spearco on December 16, 2010, 09:28:49 pm
Hella's yeah  8).
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: Powered by Spearco on December 16, 2010, 09:36:07 pm
Is that for the Isuzu?
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 16, 2010, 10:12:23 pm
yep, its for the isuzu, to keep EGT's down when the K26 and M62 are installed...

-Owen
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 16, 2010, 10:21:48 pm
Niiiiiiiiiiiiice...   8)
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 16, 2010, 11:20:07 pm
yeah, it was too good a deal to pass up, $250 for a kit worth well over $450.

local guy had it on his ford, but he blew it up before he even got one bottle through it.

he injected too much(150 shot) at part throttle and had a backfire in the exhaust that blew his turbo.
the motor died from compressor bits being ingested.

hiss loss, my gain!

-Owen
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: 81 vw pu on December 16, 2010, 11:38:18 pm
Hell Yeah man, I'm on my 4th bottle since sept. I'm up to a 50 shot now, dropped my egt by 200 degrees F.
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 17, 2010, 12:56:37 am
Hell Yeah man, I'm on my 4th bottle since sept. I'm up to a 50 shot now, dropped my egt by 200 degrees F.


but its not making 50 more hp with a n/a diesel..

i had what most would consider the 100 hp jet in my kit.. a bottle lasted me about a day and a half..
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: 81 vw pu on December 17, 2010, 09:44:07 am
Hell Yeah man, I'm on my 4th bottle since sept. I'm up to a 50 shot now, dropped my egt by 200 degrees F.


but its not making 50 more hp with a n/a diesel..

i had what most would consider the 100 hp jet in my kit.. a bottle lasted me about a day and a half..

Who's talking about a n/a diesel? I'm not ??? As to how long a bottle will last, it depends on bottle size, temp of bottle, jet size and how often you hit the switch. It's not cheap, but its fun.
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: Grey_Smoke on December 17, 2010, 03:39:13 pm
 :o stupid, probably, but so, so, much fun.  :D
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 17, 2010, 04:47:35 pm
Hell Yeah man, I'm on my 4th bottle since sept. I'm up to a 50 shot now, dropped my egt by 200 degrees F.


but its not making 50 more hp with a n/a diesel..

i had what most would consider the 100 hp jet in my kit.. a bottle lasted me about a day and a half..

Who's talking about a n/a diesel? I'm not ??? As to how long a bottle will last, it depends on bottle size, temp of bottle, jet size and how often you hit the switch. It's not cheap, but its fun.

read your signature, and saw that you had a 1.7 caddy converted to a 1.6 n/a. DID NOT however see the rest of the post about all the fun stuff you added.. lol.

where are you shooting your nitrous?
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: 81 vw pu on December 17, 2010, 07:21:15 pm
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where are you shooting your nitrous?

Its the closest of the 2 lines going into the back of the tdi intake. the other line is for the boost guage.

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Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 17, 2010, 07:49:51 pm
I am still not sure if I am going to inject mine before or after the supercharger...

also, I am thinking about a bottle blanket, but the commercial nitrous blankets are monstrously expensive.
any ideas about some kind of warming blanket that could be modified to work as one?
I am worried about the cold being an issue with bottle pressure(its -5 out right now, and it is usually colder in jan-feb)

-Owen

edit:
what do you guys think about this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230363842503&crlp=1_263602_304652&ff4=263602_304652&viewitem=&guid=fcbcef6c12a0a0aa1314afe4ffcdd60e&hlp=false&rvr_id=186572306685&ua=M*S%3F&itemid=230363842503#ht_519wt_1167
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: RadoTD on December 17, 2010, 08:54:10 pm
I'm with the "you just did something awesome..." crowd. I can't wait to see this engine all bolted together!
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 17, 2010, 10:56:32 pm
oh, it will be awesome!

the thing holding me back from installing the supercharger right now is getting the steel plate cut to make the manifold.

I have all the patterns made up, but all I have to cut the 3/16th plate with is a jig saw.
it will do the job, but will be loud and take a while, in the parking lot of my apartment building...

-Owen
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: 81 vw pu on December 18, 2010, 12:04:37 am
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I am worried about the cold being an issue with bottle pressure(its -5 out right now, and it is usually colder in jan-feb)

Cold temps can will definitely cause low bottle pressure, and it will get worse as the bottle empties. I have my bottle mounted in the cab of my caddy with a blow-down tube just in case the rupture disc does its job. I am currently relying on cabin heat to help warm the bottle. From what I understand bottle pressure should be somewhere around 900 psi for best results. To keep the bottle in that pressure range the bottle heater needs to be controlled by a pressure switch rather than a temp switch. You're right about that stuff being expensive, I'm hoping to run across a cheap bottle heater myself someday soon. The heater you listed should help, but it turns off at 67 degrees F, most likely not hot enough to get to 900 psi on a full bottle and even less effective as bottle volume drops. I know for a fact my bottle (when it was mounted in the bed) as well as my son's bottles ( mounted in the trunk of his mustang) have seen temps well over 100 degrees with no problems yet. I just wish we had pressure gauges on the bottles to monitor pressures at different temps.


Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 18, 2010, 01:03:25 am
I wonder about mounting it in the engine bay to let underhood temps heat it?
Probably a no-no to have the bottle up front though...
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 18, 2010, 08:34:17 pm
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Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: 81 vw pu on December 18, 2010, 09:25:40 pm
Before you spray remember to turn the bottle so the label is straight up and the line faces down so the dip tube will be in the proper position.

Like this
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Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 18, 2010, 09:30:51 pm
yeah, will do, I just put it there to see how it fit.

I am not a real fan of the brackets that came with it though, I might see about making a new set...

I am quickly running out of trunk space with the two batteries, 2.5 gal water/meth res, and the nitrous bottle.

there is only just enough room for my tools in there now.
oh well, it will be worth it in the end.

-Owen
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 18, 2010, 09:32:31 pm
actually, on the trunk space thing, does the have to be lying on its side?
or could it be put upright? would save me lots of space...
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: 81 vw pu on December 18, 2010, 09:40:45 pm
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I am not a real fan of the brackets that came with it though, I might see about making a new set...

I made my own brackets in the pic above, cost about 5 bucks and 30 minutes with the chop saw and wire feed.

actually, on the trunk space thing, does the have to be lying on its side?
or could it be put upright? would save me lots of space...

I have mine standing up between my seats in the caddy. Can't see any reason why it would'nt work in a trunk.
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 18, 2010, 09:55:58 pm
cool, I will make a bracket that holds it upright then, cause it will fit vertically right by the water reservoir.

this is actually going to go on the back burner until after the supercharger is installed.

-Owen
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 19, 2010, 01:17:02 am
Dammit there is a guy selling another bottle    for $50... I don't really need another one, but that is hard to pass up.
A two bottle rig would help with pressure issues though.

The guy is on crack though, he thinks a ten pound bottle is full of $100 of nitrous.

-Owen
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 19, 2010, 05:14:50 am
a 10 lb bottle does cost 100 dollars down here where im from..
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 19, 2010, 11:43:01 am
to fill or to buy?

nitrous should cost between $2.50 and $5 per pound, if it cost $100 to fill a ten pounder then it wold cost $10 a pound, huge ripoff man.

-Owen
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: 81 vw pu on December 19, 2010, 12:40:09 pm
I buy the 56 lb. bottles from a welding supply shop and fill my own. The last one I got was $160.00 so it works out to $2.85 a lb here in central Wa. I only know of 1 shop that fills bottles locally and they charge $5.00 a lb.

$50.00 is a decent price for a good used bottle, but a big NO on $100.00 for the 10 lbs of nitrous in it.
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 19, 2010, 01:57:46 pm
Do you have a pumping station?
I think I will grab the second tank even it I just use it as a  spare. I may head some places that don't have refill stations and having some extra would not be share thing.

I will head over to the shop here locally that does refills and see what they charge tomorrow.
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: 81 vw pu on December 19, 2010, 02:42:12 pm
Do you have a pumping station?
I think I will grab the second tank even it I just use it as a  spare. I may head some places that don't have refill stations and having some extra would not be share thing.

I will head over to the shop here locally that does refills and see what they charge tomorrow.
My son bit the bullet and bought a refill station a couple of years ago off EBay, but when it was all ready to fill bottles he had over $750.00 in it. Myself I would not spend that kind of money and just freeze the small bottles and gravity flow from the mother bottle.
Title: Re: I just did something stupid...
Post by: truckinwagen on December 19, 2010, 11:37:05 pm
well, the second bottle got bought out from under me, I really hate people that dont remove their craigslist post after they sell the item.

-Owen