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Title: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on October 29, 2010, 03:31:47 pm
UPDATE: see at the bottom of this post!

A machinist friend of mine has designed and fabricated a tool to cut the nose of your VW diesel crankshaft so it will accept the TDI style pulley. Here is a pic of the prototype:
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1425/5126605883_515f58f58a_b.jpg)
I used this tool today and it works excellent. Just torque the tool onto the end of the crank with the pulley bolt, put some cutting oil on the broach, and gently tap it thru. It's really slick. I used it on an engine that was on the floor but it should work fine with the engine installed as well.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5127247890_8de365c487_b.jpg)
 In the next couple weeks the machinist will do a production run of a dozen or so of these and they will be available for sale or you can rent one for a period if you like. This thread will be updated as the tools become available.  ;D
  
UPDATE: I just used the tool again, this time on an AAZ crank (the one pictured above is a 1.6 TD core I had kicking around). This crank had to be removed from the engine because somehow it had almost 2mm of taper on the face of the crank snout. A local machinist welded the nose and re-squared the face. After reinstalling the crank I cut the slot with the tool and it's all better. This thing is the bomb. We should have a cost for the tool in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: theman53 on October 29, 2010, 04:16:39 pm
That looks just like Andrew's link in his sig line.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on October 29, 2010, 04:41:30 pm
That looks just like Andrew's link in his sig line.

Are you saying this is an imitation of the distinguished gentleman from Flagstaff's crank mod tool? I think not...it's an EMULATION (http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/emulate.html)

check with your legal team. :-*
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: Quantum TD on October 29, 2010, 06:27:30 pm
Me rents now!
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: GEE-BEE on October 30, 2010, 07:01:28 am
Either way Iam in

This would be a great gift for my local shop here in southern calif

It would be great if there was a list of shop's that had the tool so owners could have this mod done

Let me know ?
GB
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: rallydiesel on October 30, 2010, 07:14:14 am
That's awesome that your making it available for sale/rent!
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: theman53 on October 30, 2010, 08:23:06 am
BTW
I can source the broach if need be. I don't sell alot of tooling, as I am more into woodworking shops, but I am a salesman that can usually get a deal on stuff. All I know about the broach is that it should be very expensive. I only sold one and it was 250.00 to my customer. :o
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: CdnVWJunkie on October 30, 2010, 08:36:19 am
I'm def. interested in one.  Any ideas on cost?
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: sawedoffgolf on October 30, 2010, 09:16:50 pm
Do you have a price in mind to buy the tool for? i will take one if it is reasonable.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: starrd on October 31, 2010, 08:19:42 pm
Do you have a price in mind to buy the tool for? i will take one if it is reasonable.

Me too, depending on price
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ToddA1 on October 31, 2010, 09:55:44 pm
So cool....  curious what the price will be. 

-Todd
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on November 01, 2010, 12:04:46 pm
I just used the tool again, this time on an AAZ crank (the one pictured above is a 1.6 TD core I had kicking around). This crank had to be removed from the engine because somehow it had almost 2mm of taper on the face of the crank snout. A local machinist welded the nose and re-squared the face.

You can true up the face of the crank by pulling the cam to eliminate the possibility of valve/piston contact and then running the starter while grinding the face of crank nose.

Do you have a jig to do this? How do you keep it true? With this unit there was no way to get around welding it, the timing belt was rubbing on the inside of the crank pulley and the alt belt hit the lower timing cover. It was JACKED. There should be several of these tools for sale by the middle of Nov, hopefully a price sooner.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on November 01, 2010, 06:07:14 pm
I wonder if there's some kind of end mill cutter that would slip over the nose of the crank and keep it straight while the motor spins over? I am going to the machine tool supply and look.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: starrd on November 02, 2010, 10:35:48 pm
Will you be including the broach with your offering?  What size did you use in your design?
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on November 03, 2010, 03:28:44 am
Will you be including the broach with your offering?  What size did you use in your design?

I'll only supply a broach if we decide to rent the tool out (not 100% sure about that part yet). If someone is going to buy one of the tools they might as well source the broach themselves from McMaster Carr or some company that sells online. The broach in the pics is 6mm I believe, I didn't buy it my friend did.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: GEE-BEE on November 03, 2010, 07:37:03 am
List the part from Mcmaster carr with the toll to be correct....

GB
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: Quantum TD on November 17, 2010, 09:39:32 pm
Any update on this???

Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on November 18, 2010, 02:53:35 am
The prototype is back with the machinist, he's going to modify it so it is smaller and can be used without removing the seal flange. They should be ready by the middle of next week sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on November 19, 2010, 09:06:40 am
wtf?
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: the caveman on November 19, 2010, 11:32:46 am
wtf wtf?
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: starrd on November 24, 2010, 07:51:01 am
Any updates?
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on November 24, 2010, 03:33:21 pm
Still working on it sorry about the delays I am filled with shame. :-[
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: SR Heer on November 29, 2010, 07:40:19 pm
I will be needing to buy or rent tool when it becomes available - thanks!
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: Quantum TD on January 24, 2011, 07:57:48 am
Any updates?
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: dh13 on January 24, 2011, 08:05:30 am
Depending on price I am in for one as well.

Also the correct Mcmaster Carr part number would be great. Would make it easier for all of us.

Thanks
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on January 24, 2011, 08:20:16 am
It is with great regret I must inform everyone interested in this item that it will not be available for the foreseeable future. The machinist that made the original has left the company where he made it and taken employment in another industry. Supposedly he has 6 of them almost complete but every time I contact him it's always, "I'll get to it this weekend". I'm done chasing him, if he contacts me and tells me they're ready I will post but for now it's a no go. Sorry for the letdown.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: macka on January 30, 2011, 07:14:39 am
do you have schematics? I can probably source out a cnc model if you have the measurements. I just need a safe depth, and an outer diameter to fit without bagging the seal flange.
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: CdnVWJunkie on February 24, 2011, 08:12:05 am
Is anyone else going to step up and offer these?
Title: Re: Crankshaft nose upgrade/repair tool
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on February 24, 2011, 04:06:17 pm
all you have to do is take a crankshaft and a TDI pulley to a machine shop, email them this thread and they should be able to make one for you.