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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Big Daddy Roth on August 25, 2010, 06:29:28 pm

Title: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: Big Daddy Roth on August 25, 2010, 06:29:28 pm
J179 - Where the hell is it?? I can't find the dam thing. Do I even have one?

It's not attached to the fuse box nor the back side of the center console.
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: the caveman on August 25, 2010, 09:44:56 pm
I seem to remember some had them in the plenum next to the wipers.
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: AudiVWguy on August 26, 2010, 08:33:45 pm
Describe how this glow plug controller works. I'm only familiar with the basic relay style.
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: vanbcguy on August 26, 2010, 09:47:29 pm
Guessing you're talking about your B3?  The A3's have it all integrated into the body controller - there's a small simple (cheap) relay in the fuse box but the body ecu does all the actual "work".  I'd guess your B3 would be the same as they usually got stuff a few years before the A3's did.

Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: Big Daddy Roth on August 27, 2010, 09:44:10 pm
Pic of MK3 layout
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/vwaldon/ECM-1.jpg)

Except I have a 1993 Passat eco-diesel.

I never thought to look in the plenum where the 16V/VR6 ECU would be. I'll check in the AM.
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: Big Daddy Roth on August 28, 2010, 08:35:30 am
nope, not in the plenum.
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: Big Daddy Roth on September 01, 2010, 01:31:42 pm
I found it!

It's up behind the fuse panel. Hanging from the underside of the plenum.

Mine is labeled "134" and "357 906 123"
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: fck on September 01, 2010, 02:16:08 pm
ugh, my west diesel had a glow plug fusible link hiding up behind my fuse box that gave me all kinds of trouble.

glad you found it!
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: Big Daddy Roth on September 01, 2010, 05:28:24 pm
P/N changes up to the typical 1H0 906 123  "136" controller.

I needed to find it so I could add a wire to the 14 pin of the relay for the "injection start positioner". My Eco-diesel pump didn't have it. My new pump does have it.

That solenoid is powered when the micro-switch on the throttle is closed, correct?

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs429.snc4/47187_433310584913_511434913_4841368_13964_n.jpg)
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: Vincent Waldon on September 01, 2010, 05:57:55 pm
That solenoid is powered when the micro-switch on the throttle is closed, correct?

My understanding is that RPM enters into the equation as well, although I've not looked at a wiring diagram for a while.  

It's a very subtle timing adjustment and is purely for a small NOX reduction under specific engine conditions.. so many folks either connect it to the stop solenoid or leave it disconnected.

When I got my Giles pump I asked him for his opinion... connect, disconnect, run it to the controller.. his response was "connect it and listen to your engine, then disconnect it... see what it prefers".  Mine preferred disconnected.  ;)
Title: Re: B3 Eco-Diesel Glow Plug Controler
Post by: Big Daddy Roth on September 01, 2010, 08:19:01 pm
Oh, I had it connected to the stop solenoid. Seemed like too much fuel at low RPM's and my fuel economy went to ***.

Yes, tach signal from the Alt does go to that controler.

I'll connect it for a while and play with the micro-switch and see if I can find myself a sweet spot on the throttle plate.