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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Rabbit on Roids on July 18, 2010, 10:06:15 am

Title: Compound questions???
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on July 18, 2010, 10:06:15 am
ok, so, would a K24 be any good as a low pressure turbo with a VNT17 as the HP turbo? or are they too similarly sized to be any good in a compound set?
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: OM617 on July 18, 2010, 10:12:17 am
KKK turbos are very inefficient, its best to avoid them in any situation.
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on July 18, 2010, 10:20:26 am
ok, well i didnt ask for you to tell me they are inefficient. i could care less if they are or not. but if i can run it with the turbo i got, and have a little more fun, im down for it!
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: OM617 on July 18, 2010, 10:21:45 am
Ok, well you asked "would a K24 be any good as a low pressure turbo" and I gave you the correct response, avoidance. Piss off child.
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on July 18, 2010, 10:59:45 am
anyone have any worth-while info as to why i should or should not use a K24 as a LP turbo and a GT17 as a HP turbo?
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: tSoG-84bit on July 18, 2010, 11:51:39 am
 ::) I think you two should kiss and make up. oh, and gimme the vnt-17, I've got an engine i wanna try to exploderate. :D
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: UnderPSI on July 18, 2010, 01:59:45 pm
Put it on and see how it works.
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on July 18, 2010, 02:03:21 pm
so if i have the VNT with 20 psi, and the K24 set up with a stock WG setting of 8 psi? what am i looking at for a total pressure? enough to blow the head off my engine?
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: RadoTD on July 18, 2010, 02:28:50 pm
so if i have the VNT with 20 psi, and the K24 set up with a stock WG setting of 8 psi? what am i looking at for a total pressure? enough to blow the head off my engine?

= (20+14.7)/14.7 * (8+14.7)/14.7 * 14.7
= 2.36 * 1.54 * 14.7
= 53.4psi

I'll let you decide whether or not that's enough boost ;)
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: UnderPSI on July 18, 2010, 02:34:00 pm
If you take the boost reading form the intake manifold you should be okay, I'ld watch the gauge though.
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: OM617 on July 18, 2010, 02:38:03 pm
20psi is what you would get. The VNT will keep manifold pressure the same, it will simply open the vanes more to reduce drive pressure.

Oh thats right, your vanes are "wired open". In that case you would get 53psi, far more slowly than with a functioning VNT.
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: UnderPSI on July 18, 2010, 03:11:31 pm
Oh thats right, your vanes are "wired open". In that case you would get 53psi, far more slowly than with a functioning VNT.

Depends on where the wastegate is referenced and how much it can flow.
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: OM617 on July 18, 2010, 07:37:03 pm
There is no wastegate on a VNT. All the exhaust flows through the turbine.
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: UnderPSI on July 18, 2010, 08:00:49 pm
There is no wastegate on a VNT. All the exhaust flows through the turbine.

That is interesting, last time I checked a K24 isn't a VNT.
Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: burn_your_money on July 18, 2010, 08:29:29 pm
Howsabout everybody simmer down and remember that:

1) these are just cars and engines... nothing worth duelling to the pain over...
2) we're here to learn from each other and share information, not prove who's the smartest or best endowed
3) the forum guidelines call for respectful posts at *all* times.


Title: Re: Compound questions???
Post by: Smokey Eddy on July 18, 2010, 10:34:21 pm
I agree with Tyler. Kevin i suggest you PM Matt (RadoTD) and ask him. He has access to a lot of turbo maps. he has done extensive research into compounding with KKK turbos and all sorts of others, including VNT's.