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Title: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on June 29, 2010, 05:33:43 pm
I just got my flywheel resurfaced and machined at the machine shop to the tune of $76 only to realize it's a 200mm flywheel and my clutch and pressure plate are both 210mm.
Can anyone help me?
=(  :'(

Said flywheel for sale here (http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=26122.msg209028#msg209028)
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 29, 2010, 05:36:38 pm
get one off a gasser. or just order a new one. there cheap. only thing you have to worry about is if there is a TDC mark or not.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: catlin_cava on June 29, 2010, 06:01:34 pm
I have one, another present to get your Jetta on the road.  ;) :-*
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: theman53 on June 29, 2010, 08:54:04 pm
I feel a little better that the machine shop only charged me 50...I don't know what clutch I had, but it was diesel and only had 6 pp bolts. For the 210 you need 9 bolts...took me an extra 1.5 to 2 hours because of that this weekend.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on June 29, 2010, 09:15:54 pm
okay, Catlin, how many pressure plate bolt holes are there on it?
I think my pressure plate only only has 6 bolt holes?

i'll make my own TDC mark. no big deal. That's what a dremel and yellow paint is for! :D
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: fatmobile on June 29, 2010, 11:26:07 pm
If the number of bolt holes is the same,..
 can they just mill it to 210mm?
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on June 29, 2010, 11:27:15 pm
yeah i dunno? there are these two sleeves though around the inside of the flywheel that i think may get in the way?
plus the cost of milling would be more than another flywheel
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: theman53 on June 30, 2010, 06:17:03 am
I looked in my bentley and it said the diesels have 6 bolts/gassers 9...well the aaz wasn't made yet for that bentley, but it had the 210mm clutch and takes 9 bolts. I bought the aaz from Tyler to run my clutch so it had the diesel timing mark, but didn't even think about the flywheel to PP bolts. I think they are m7-1.0x43mm counterbore or 12point if you will. I sell bolts and we don't even have anything like that on the shelf, no one does. So I had to make some work with taps and dies, but you have an advantage. You have time to go to the dealer and order some and save the headache I had trying to put the engine in:D
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: catlin_cava on June 30, 2010, 06:55:29 am
6, Because its off of an AAZ, and Ièm Gasser PP have 6 Also TRUST ME, I have an AAZ PP Clutch and Flywheel on my ABA lol

What do you need Ed, The pressure plate or flywheelÉ
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: theman53 on June 30, 2010, 07:10:08 am
I am talking the flywheel to pp bolts there 'should' be 9 instead of six...NOT the pp to crank that is the same:D
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on June 30, 2010, 09:19:41 am
my pressure plate is from bildon motorsports which complicates things.

I need a flywheel  Catlin, because my clutch and PP from Bildon are both 210mm in diameter and my flywheel is 200mm.
I will hopefully get a couple pictures up here about 11 or 12 hours from the time of this post.

(ps. do you think anyone would buy my flywheel with the invoice of the machining for what i paid to have it machined? It's all perfectly clean, painted and was machined yesterday. It cost me $76.50 to have it done... I'm totally bummed that i paid that much money for an item i would have otherwise taken for scrap metal and can't even use)
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 30, 2010, 09:37:10 am
most later style 210mm setups have 9 bolts holding the FW to them.  that ive seen atleast.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: catlin_cava on June 30, 2010, 10:20:52 am
all my struff is MK3 93 to 98 Parts ;) they are dirt cheap and I junk 5 to 6 a year lol
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: catlin_cava on June 30, 2010, 10:28:11 am
I JUST thought of this, How big is the Output shaft in the transmission and does your clutch fit it?, Some early models have smaller output shafts, or so I've been told.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on June 30, 2010, 11:05:05 am
I'll have to check when I get home from work!!!
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 30, 2010, 11:26:40 am
the only difference is the mk3 trans. it has the bigger 24 spline input shaft. all mk1 and mk2 020 trannys had the same 22mm input shaft.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: burn_your_money on June 30, 2010, 11:54:41 am
the only difference is the mk3 trans. it has the bigger 24 spline input shaft. all mk1 and mk2 020 trannys had the same 22mm input shaft.

I think 16v use the larger spline.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on June 30, 2010, 12:58:00 pm
the only difference is the mk3 trans. it has the bigger 24 spline input shaft. all mk1 and mk2 020 trannys had the same 22mm input shaft.

ok so you're telling me that Catlin's mk3 flywheel will work with my 210mm clutch and pressure plate and has no relevancy to the 22mm input shaft on my MK2 transmission! :D
Huzzah!
I just need to find a buyer for my flywheel now...
dang. Anyone hear of anything ever please please please let me know.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on June 30, 2010, 12:59:03 pm
Is it okay to clean out the bellhousing with solvent?
I want to make sure no oil/grease gets anywhere near my clutch disk.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: RadoTD on June 30, 2010, 01:38:51 pm
the only difference is the mk3 trans. it has the bigger 24 spline input shaft. all mk1 and mk2 020 trannys had the same 22mm input shaft.

ok so you're telling me that Catlin's mk3 flywheel will work with my 210mm clutch and pressure plate and has no relevancy to the 22mm input shaft on my MK2 transmission! :D
Huzzah!
I just need to find a buyer for my flywheel now...
dang. Anyone hear of anything ever please please please let me know.

yeah, that PP/flywheel should work. It's just the clutch disc that's on the input shaft

and the best place to sell parts is on dubberz.com, make an account there
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on June 30, 2010, 02:33:55 pm
Thanks Matt, will do.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on July 01, 2010, 10:09:31 am
a FW is a FW. the clutch and the trans input shaft are what make the mk3 special. clutch is still 210mm. just has a bigger hole in the middle for the 24 spline input shaft. instead of the 22 spline shaft of our standard 020 trannies. yes ed, his FW will work. just dont use the mk3 clutch.

use:
mk2 PP
mk2 disk
mk3 FW
mk2 trans.

it will work wonderfully.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: theman53 on July 01, 2010, 04:29:48 pm
It is fine to clean it with solvent. Maybe stay away from the pushrod area, but they have seals that hold up to oil so it should be fine. I used brake cleaner on mine, after Brokevw put it into the ultra sonic cleaner and I got it a little dirty.
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on July 01, 2010, 05:00:56 pm
the only difference is the mk3 trans. it has the bigger 24 spline input shaft. all mk1 and mk2 020 trannys had the same 22mm input shaft.

I think 16v use the larger spline.

yes, 16v trannies are bigger also. (input shaft)
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: RadoTD on July 02, 2010, 08:50:08 pm
Or buy the 6sp 02M off of dubberz  ;)
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on July 02, 2010, 10:12:03 pm
link?
Title: Re: fml... anyone have a 210 flywheel?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on July 02, 2010, 10:13:38 pm
Catlin has one he will send me for shipping (around $40)
I really hope i can sell mine and at least get something back for it :(