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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: dankcorey22 on May 22, 2010, 09:30:02 pm

Title: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: dankcorey22 on May 22, 2010, 09:30:02 pm: i have 2 questions to ask

number one is the injectors on a mercedes benz 300 turbo diesel bigger than the ones on the 1.6 td's?

Number two does it produce more power if the MB injectors are in the 1.6 TD? And are they interchangeable?

Thanks Corey
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: burn_your_money on May 23, 2010, 06:40:32 am: Stock nozzles can provide the fuel your engine needs.

There have been stories of MB nozzles knocking the precups out of the head. They are designed for a totally different precombustion chamber.
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: macka on May 23, 2010, 06:52:05 am: not bigger physically, but GTD injectors are a nice upgrade
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: dankcorey22 on May 23, 2010, 10:29:46 pm: alright thanks guys for the help ill probably get some from the junk yard with not many miles on em and try the injectors.
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 24, 2010, 09:30:25 am: the merc ones? your actually gonna use them? dont come back here crying if they render your engine useless... we already told you the potential side effects of merc nozzles.. go with something that designed for a VW pre chamber.
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: dankcorey22 on May 24, 2010, 10:21:38 am: what about these- http://dieselvw.com/16TDMercedesInjector.htm (http://dieselvw.com/16TDMercedesInjector.htm)

There Merc spec injectors just a spray pattern for the VW pre chamber
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: burn_your_money on May 24, 2010, 11:40:08 am: Do a search for "prothe" before you buy anything from that site.
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 24, 2010, 03:46:29 pm: Quote from: dankcorey22 on May 24, 2010, 10:21:38 am
what about these- http://dieselvw.com/16TDMercedesInjector.htm (http://dieselvw.com/16TDMercedesInjector.htm)

There Merc spec injectors just a spray pattern for the VW pre chamber

there merc injectors that prothe sells to install in a VW. there not the right injector. and 99% chance that they are cheap chinese junk. go with either stock, or GTD nozzles.
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: 745 turbogreasel on May 24, 2010, 04:11:36 pm: Quote from: dankcorey22 on May 24, 2010, 10:21:38 am
what about these- http://dieselvw.com/16TDMercedesInjector.htm (http://dieselvw.com/16TDMercedesInjector.htm)

There Merc spec injectors just a spray pattern for the VW pre chamber
No, these are "VW" housings (which is irrelevant) with Merc nozzles eg. NOT for VW prechamber.
If you are running veg or bio dirty enough to foul stock injectors, different ones are not going to help you for long.
All the housings are the same, nozzle and spring setting change with application.
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: subsonic on May 26, 2010, 07:32:07 am: I wonder how the merc nozzles would do on a bio or grease engine? I remember reading somewhere that for best use (grease) they switched nozles to slightly bigger.
Title: Re: bigger injectors for 1.6 td
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 26, 2010, 08:29:24 am: only non-vw nozzle i would run is a GM nozzle. the pre chambers are damn near identical to a VW. ive heard of someone else installing gm nozzles too, and we never heard any bad feedback about them..