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Engine Specific Info and Questions => TDI Engine -General Info => Topic started by: the caveman on April 04, 2010, 02:49:50 pm

Title: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: the caveman on April 04, 2010, 02:49:50 pm
I am thinking of going the TDI route for my transporter but to save some time and energy i'd like to use a JX manifold i already have so i don't have to fabricate a new l/s engine mount. So that's the question, has anybody tried to fit one to the JX manifold which came on Vanagon diesels.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: the caveman on April 04, 2010, 03:47:05 pm
I have to admit here that i'm being kinda lazy and i know that they won't actually bolt up easy, but i was wondering if it was easy, a bit of fabrication and welding, or a real pain.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: burn_your_money on April 04, 2010, 04:49:00 pm
Change out of your pink long johns for some work clothes and go take a look :P

Do you have any pictures of this JX manifold's bolt pattern?
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: the caveman on April 04, 2010, 08:24:25 pm
the problem is that if i lie down to look, i'll want to stay there and take a nap.

i think it's   an isosceles  trapizoid. There are other manifolds like it but not sure/too lazy to figure it out which ones right now.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: blackdogvan on April 05, 2010, 11:07:16 am
(http://www.vanagon.eu/pics/exhaustmanifold.jpg)
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on April 05, 2010, 12:47:59 pm
im almost for positive that its the same flange that the rabbit/jetta diesel turbos use. and i know of no VNT's that have that flange on them, its kinda a VW only thing from what ive seen.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: the caveman on April 05, 2010, 01:16:03 pm
If i remember right [ that doesn't always happen ] the TDI VNT is a complete unit with the turbo housing. Without having one in front of me I'm wondering if there is enough meat between the manifold collector and the turbo's exhaust inlet to cut and weld up a matching flange.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: the caveman on April 05, 2010, 01:16:44 pm
im almost for positive that its the same flange that the rabbit/jetta diesel turbos use. and i know of no VNT's that have that flange on them, its kinda a VW only thing from what ive seen.
Which model turbo would that be?
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: truckinwagen on April 05, 2010, 01:18:47 pm
the vw vnt has an integrated manifold, but it should be possible without too much work to cut the turbo off the manifold and weld a flange on.

all the vw TD turbos(except the T3) use the trapezoidal flange, K14, K24, T3 etc...
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: blackdogvan on April 05, 2010, 01:35:07 pm
Not all the VNT's VAG used are integrated with the exhaust mani, Passat TDI ones for example. Find one tho...
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: truckinwagen on April 05, 2010, 01:37:53 pm
true, I guess I should have said "the vast majority of vw vnt's"

the non integrated ones are really hard to find, it would be easier and cheaper to cut and weld an integrated one.

and what bolt pattern are the passat ones? not the trapezoidal I am sure...
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: blackdogvan on April 05, 2010, 07:00:17 pm
I don't know about the passat ones shape... euro ebay sites are the best bet.

No chance of a 8v t25 gasser mani with an adapter plate fitting?
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: rabbitman on April 05, 2010, 08:58:13 pm
 
and what bolt pattern are the passat ones? not the trapezoidal I am sure...

This: http://www.volkswaparts.com/VNTTurboGasket.htm (http://www.volkswaparts.com/VNTTurboGasket.htm) is the gasket it uses.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: myke_w on April 06, 2010, 04:51:37 am
The vnt off the 04-05 TDI passat is also called a gt1749 VA, they used them here and in Europe on several motors.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: 4wheeler on April 06, 2010, 05:34:29 pm
Where does one get a euro style VNT 17?

Whats typically the price tag on them?
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: blackdogvan on April 06, 2010, 11:40:09 pm
I've gotten several from German eBay.  Be sure that the seller will ship to the U.S. and that they accept Paypal.

Unfortunatly two rare things on German eBay.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: ryanp on April 08, 2010, 08:51:56 am
I've got two of these passat VA's on their way to me as we speak, shipping is like £50 to the US/Canada and only takes 24-48hrs.

(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq352/ryan-pak/RyanVWturbos.jpg)
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: Syncroincity on April 08, 2010, 08:50:41 pm
It's not all that rare.  You can actually add "Paypal" as one of the details in the list so you don't even need to look in the individual auctions.  It displays a big "P" at the far end of the list view for each of the auctions that accepts Paypal.  Also some sellers will ship to the U.S. even if they don't say so.  You just need to ask.  Google translate also comes in very handy.  When sending messages, I always translate into German and then back to English just to make sure it makes sense. 

It's been my experience that they prefer good English to bad German. ;)  ...which is what you get from Translator, usually. Brace yourself for the shipping costs. DHL and Deutche Post are the common shipping methods. I've bought a bunch of Subaru E-code headlights on eBay.de and the shipping was usually more than the items cost.
Title: Re: VNT turbo on a JX manifold
Post by: burn_your_money on April 09, 2010, 09:07:33 pm
It's been my experience that they prefer good English to bad German. ;)

Same here. I usually include my original English version with the poorly translated German version. I've been advised that the majority of people in Germany know English anyways.