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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: truckinwagen on January 10, 2010, 06:43:24 pm

Title: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: truckinwagen on January 10, 2010, 06:43:24 pm

would there be any issue with this?
or a 190 clutch on a 210 flywheel/PP?

I have a good line on a cheap(and cheaply shipped) 190mm sprung center four puck, but don't have any 190 flywheels or pressure plates, I dont really want to have to get new ones, so I was wondering if there was any issues with just installing it in the flywheel/PP I have.

thanks,
-Owen

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: truckinwagen on January 10, 2010, 07:12:25 pm

question answered, searched the vortex and got my answer.

should work fine, smaller clutches work fine with bigger flywheel/PP, just not the other way around.

just bought a four puck sprung center 190mm clutch from bildon motorsport, which is the only company I have found with incredibly reasonable shipping to AK( I am only paying $4 in shipping)

-Owen

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: fatmobile on January 10, 2010, 10:48:49 pm

I think Jake; fspGTD had that setup.
 Less rotating mass.
 How much did you pay for the disc?

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: truckinwagen on January 11, 2010, 12:07:34 am

$70-ish

damn good deal if you ask me!

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on January 11, 2010, 08:58:35 am

they dont grab as good it seems tho.

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: truckinwagen on January 11, 2010, 10:15:40 am

the four button clutch should fix that problem ;D

the rotating mass should be negligible, as the flywheel and pressure plate will be the same(most of the mass is in them)

the only reason I got the 190 is that they did not have a 200

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: fatmobile on April 18, 2011, 01:30:57 am

How well did this clutch work out?

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on April 18, 2011, 01:57:00 am

On a Quantum setup, will a 200 clutch & plate fit on a 190 flywheel?

Thanks.

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 18, 2011, 08:42:57 am

Quote from: Mark(The Miser)UK on April 18, 2011, 01:57:00 am

On a Quantum setup, will a 200 clutch & plate fit on a 190 flywheel?

Thanks.

the flywheels are only milled big enough for their originally equipped clutch..

generally the flywheel determines the max diameter of clutch you can run..

the 200 may not even fully contact the friction surface, if at all. im not a quantum expert, but i know that on a R/G/J setup, if you have a 190mm flywheel, you have to run a 190mm clutch.

200mm fw with a 190mm plate and disk works, but i dont think it works backwards of that.

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 18, 2011, 11:27:26 am

the machined area of said flywheel determins max diameter clutch used... else the clutch ends up in the non machined area and well.. will be stuck and unable to be released..

so on the quantium.. look at the machined area is all i can say...

on the other style.. 210mm will fit them all.. 200 will fit 200 and 190 and 190 only fits 190..

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: fatmobile on April 18, 2011, 07:51:21 pm

After doing more searching it sounded like this 190mm, 4-puck disc was grabby for him.
 If you got moving a little bit, and got the clutch all the way released before getting on it,
 it was smooth enough for city driving.

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 19, 2011, 10:11:33 am

Quote from: fatmobile on April 18, 2011, 07:51:21 pm

After doing more searching it sounded like this 190mm, 4-puck disc was grabby for him.
 If you got moving a little bit, and got the clutch all the way released before getting on it,
 it was smooth enough for city driving.

owen was using a 190mm in a 020, i doubt an 020 clutch works on a quantum setup? maybe it does? who knows?

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: fatmobile on April 21, 2011, 12:12:15 am

 Soo what was the part number for the disc and how does it feel?
 Easily streetable?

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: truckinwagen on April 21, 2011, 12:31:45 am

terrible streetability, but would hold and launch like nothing else.

really only good if you have a big motor and drive it hard.

a six puck would be much better.

-Owen

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: fatmobile on April 22, 2011, 08:22:34 pm

Thanks.
,... and this was an aircooled clutch right?

 I looked at Bildon and couldn't find any.
 

Title: Re: 190mm clutch in a 200mm flywheel/pressure plate?
Post by: truckinwagen on April 22, 2011, 10:50:09 pm

no, it was a bildon clutch.

I got a good deal on it because they were stopping building them and clearing out stock.

I wanted to use an air cooled clutch, but shipping was gonna kill me on one.

-Owen