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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Mozza on November 16, 2009, 08:20:13 am
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what would be an easy turbo upgrade for the standard 1.9 aaz turbo and easy enough to come buy!
I would like to run it at about 130bhp so nothing silly but want to worry some people,
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K03 hYBRID frpm GPOPSHOP
2.5 downpipe
308 injectors from brickwerks ( GTD )
Rover Pin : Brickwerks also
Giles pump OHC
EGT/ PSI Gauge from Mcnally.com
Iam doing the same...
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If you are getting a pump from Giles don't waste your money on a boost pin.
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don`t waste money on any K03 either.
K14 or bigger..
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A K24 or T3 from a 1.6 would do well on the AAZ. Although you could certainly run around 130 hp on the stock turbo with a boost controller and upping your fueling. An intercooler would be a good idea at this point too.
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If the stock turbo is a K03 you won`t get 130 hp at 18-20PSI.
110 at most
If the stock turbo is a K14 is the stock turbo 130hp is doable.
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I'm pretty sure when he said k03 hybrid he meant k03 hybrid. As in ko3 cold side k04 hotside. Bora parts & kermatdi both sell them too. K14 would be great too for sure.
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will the k14 just bolt straight on or will it need some work, and are the giles pumps expensive and where would you get one from! I have to get all the breaks working and some welding done to in the next couple of months! so there are long term ideas,
I have fitted the the intercooler of the 1.6 engine but needed some quick cash and had to sell the complete 1.6 engine with turbo and pump, wish i didnt now, but oh well we do some silly things from time to time.
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There are 2 Standard 1.9TD aaz turbos, the K03 and K14.
All depends on how much power you want from your motor..
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There are 2 Standard 1.9TD aaz turbos, the K03 and K14.
All depends on how much power you want from your motor..
The Garrett T2 turbo was also standard for some years on the 1.9TD (1.9 AAZ Turbo Diesel engines 93-98 yr. Garrett T-2; VW # 028 145 703 B and VD2431F). This uses a 4-bolt turbo flange. For my elevation, a T2 or a K14 are the only stock options due to boost lag. I would be willing to try a GT series turbo from Garrett once my T2 needs to be replaced. The T2 is basically Garrett's version of the K14 but seems easier to rebuild.
are the giles pumps expensive and where would you get one from!
Here's a link to his website. Very nice guy and willing to talk you through it all too; http://www.performancediesel.ca/index.htm (http://www.performancediesel.ca/index.htm)
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You will be probly see more K14 in Europe , check out ebay Germany
I found a K14 with exhaust manifold for 160.00 euro in Germany ( non egr type )
I purchsed on to help Techtonicstuning with there downpipe requirements for the AAZ/ MK1
They now have both setup's K03 and K14/T3
Next add a PD150 INTAKE and intercooler and your there
Gee-Bee
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As for the pump Peugeot 306or 405s 1.9 td are basically the same as the vw 1.6td pumps and are set up for 90 hp stock but make sure its a 1.9 not a 1.8 as they are 8mm pumps as opposed to 9mm on the 1.9 but both are set up for 90 odd bhp and if you can be bothered to sort out the electronic cold start the peugeot 406 uses a 10mm pump also a lot of the citroen diesels use the peugeot xud range of engines and same pumps
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forgot to say if you go down the pug 406 road the 180 bar injectors from the same car makes a nice addition to the 10mm pump
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406 pumps are 9mm heads as well im sorry to say and the injectors are 175 bar same as a 1.9 306/405.
Dont waste time with a 406 pump due to the electrics headache, that solenoid controls advance as well through an ecu.
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So many more diesel options across the pond.
You guys over there are so lucky.
Damn oil companies tieing north america to gasoline.
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If gas/petrol was the same price here as it is over there we'd be driving them too lol
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xud 212 type pump is 10mm but agree with the solenoid been down that road to much elec tricery in the end just used the head after alot of messing around and apiss poor out come
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What engine did that pump come on the 406?
I thought the 2.1 engine was a lucas pump?
Any 406 pumps ive opened have been 9mm heads and theyve all been off the 1.9 turbo diesel.
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it came of 406 1.9td on a 99 ,your right the 2.1 are lucas pumps but there is a chance some one had got at the 1.9 pump as it was scraped because it would not get through the emissions test but they do use three different pumps on the 1.9s xud212 xud bpo2 and the xud which is a lucas pump.The solenoid on the side off the pump did go to a small ecu but don't that take its signal of the CTS sensor to adjust the advance on cold starting? or do they use MAPS+road speed sensors as i am certain it did not have a air flow meter on it and would have thought it would need them in conjunction with a crank angle sensor to have a effective electronic dynamic advance system?I know the late aaz pumps had a type of electronic control but they had a start of injection censor like on the TDIs,{ where you would screw your dti gauge in on the idi pump }but it did not have one of them on the pug pump
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looking at the wiring diagrams for the 406 the pump i had of the scraper could not have been the original pump as they show three plugs not including the immobilizer/fuel shut of obviously the reason it was scraped so do not know what its of but its 10mm :-\ only used the head in the end on a 405 body
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I did the same with a 406 pump i had (9mm).
I had a citroen xsara 1.9 pump with bad internals so used the casing (no solenoid) and the good 9mm internals of the 406 and job done.
Ive now got an 11mm head from a transit set to go back on soon as i had a few teething problems.
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sorry this is an old thread but how can i tell which turbo my aaz engine has as stock, as i think im going to stick with it either way, i have fitted the mk2 intercooler and am sticking with that to as i want a propper factory look under the bay, I think i would be happy with 110 bhp any how as this aint a race car its my daily!
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there should be a ID plate on the cold side{compressor} but what ever turbo it is as long as it is working ok it should be ok for 110bhp but you may struggle with a stock aaz pump
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@ anto are you using the xsara pump on a vw engine
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55eta - no, i am using it on a peugeot 306, same engine just different body...
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i will be putting the gtd nozzles on and a rover boost pin, which should help a little!
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Whats different with Peugeot pumps? 150hp from governormodded&pinned AAZ pump is no problem.
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MJF - different pump noses i think so maybe wouldnt fit without mods.(never seen a vw pump in real life though)
Internals should be similar though so id expect the same performance. Peugeot pump has the good aneroid pin as well.
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Do yourself a favor and get giles to mod a pump for you...wtih the upgraded turbo, IC and bigger straight piped exhaust you will enjoy your daily driver ALOT more! (BTW techtonics tuning make great DP's and exhausts)
My daily driver has one (45,000 kms since install) and i love every minute of every drive..... i still have the stock tape deck! Its that good to listen to the sound this makes anytime its over 10psi.
if you're swappen turbos anyways you should think about a ball bearing setup.