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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: derekp on August 24, 2009, 05:44:39 am

Title: need help identifying an IP
Post by: derekp on August 24, 2009, 05:44:39 am: P/N on it is 0-460-494-182
I bought it believing its a 1.6 TD pump. and I'm wanting to replace my 92 ECO pump with this one.
But my ECO pump has longer "check valves" (I believe thats what they're called) those fittings on the back of the pump that the lines screw onto.
The pump I bought, well, those fittings are much shorter than the ones on my ECO pump.

I looked in the faq and found the listing of IP pump numbers but theonly info it provides is "VW - CY/JR engine" and that doesnt mean much to me.
Can anyone give more info on this pump number or why its outlet fittings are shorter than mine?
thanks!
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: arb on August 24, 2009, 05:52:41 am: Got a photo? Its worth 1,000 words. I see from the part number it has 9mm plungers (6th digit)
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: derekp on August 24, 2009, 06:16:17 am: I'll take a photo of my ECO pump (in car) and the recently purchased Turbo-IP pump tonight if I can and post them.
I have not yet been able to read the numbers on my current ECO pump.
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: arb on August 24, 2009, 06:28:55 am: Quote from: derekp on August 24, 2009, 06:16:17 am
I'll take a photo of my ECO pump (in car) and the recently purchased Turbo-IP pump tonight if I can and post them.
I have not yet been able to read the numbers on my current ECO pump.

Photos are good. I've never seen anyone on-line have a full break down of that the part numbers mean beyond the plunger and a few other details.
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: burn_your_money on August 24, 2009, 02:19:53 pm: You got the right pump. The Ecos have longer delivery valves then the TD pumps. You will need to either get TD injection lines, bend your lines or swap the complete delivery valve assemblies over from one pump to the other. The proceedure is outlined in the mk3 bentley. You will need new copper washers, any diesel should should be able to get them for you.
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: derekp on August 24, 2009, 05:10:45 pm: can anyone shed light on why the eco had the longer delivery valves? I thought they had check valves in them - so do the regular pumps have that as well?
I did get the lines with the pump BTW...
thanks!
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: fatmobile on August 24, 2009, 07:25:25 pm: I think the longer delivery valves work with the 2-stage injectors, for a smoother burn.
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: 1outof5 on August 25, 2009, 01:35:07 am: I don't know how realiable this site is but I found the origine of my spare pump through it:

http://www.vepump.cn/English/CZB.htm (http://www.vepump.cn/English/CZB.htm)
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: gigaz2 on August 25, 2009, 02:37:08 am: according to bosch:
-golf mk2 1.6TD 51KW engine code:MF
-Nissan Santana 1.6td 53KW engine code:CY

has a 9mm plunger, rated to 4500rpm (engine)
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: burn_your_money on August 25, 2009, 04:34:51 am: Quote from: fatmobile on August 24, 2009, 07:25:25 pm
I think the longer delivery valves work with the 2-stage injectors, for a smoother burn.

Except that the eco diesels have the exact same injectors as the regular TDs. I don't know why bosch did what they did ???
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: derekp on August 25, 2009, 04:56:27 am: The Eco diesel does not have 2 stage injectors. Hmmmm...
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: arb on August 25, 2009, 06:09:16 am: Quote from: 1outof5 on August 25, 2009, 01:35:07 am
I don't know how realiable this site is but I found the origine of my spare pump through it:

http://www.vepump.cn/English/CZB.htm (http://www.vepump.cn/English/CZB.htm)

Very interesting site. I see VM Motori uses our pumps too.
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on August 25, 2009, 08:23:32 am: Quote from: derekp on August 25, 2009, 04:56:27 am
The Eco diesel does not have 2 stage injectors. Hmmmm...

the AAZ is the oldest engine to have 2 stage infectors...
Title: Re: need help identifying an IP
Post by: 1outof5 on August 26, 2009, 07:44:41 am: Quote from: gigaz2 on August 25, 2009, 02:37:08 am
according to bosch:
-golf mk2 1.6TD 51KW engine code:MF
-Nissan Santana 1.6td 53KW engine code:CY

has a 9mm plunger, rated to 4500rpm (engine)

actualy the "CY" engine is also in the Golf MK1 Turbo diesels