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Title: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 08, 2009, 08:33:07 am
i have a mk2 1.6 gtd and i have a mk3 1.9td (aaz engine)
which would better the mk2 with the aaz engine installed into it
or leave the mk3 and tweak that ????
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: burn_your_money on August 08, 2009, 08:35:34 am
They are both good engines but with pretty different characteristics. What are your goals for the car?
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 08, 2009, 08:49:28 am
well either way they are better than petrol in costs/mpg so mpg isnt an issue
but yeh i`m after top end speed and set off speed

my mk2 1.6gtd tuned is quick but not quick enough
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: LoneWolf on August 08, 2009, 09:55:13 am
mk2 with the mk3 engine, but use the mk2 turbo setup, thats what im running, its pretty economical and a good bit of fun to drive :)
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 08, 2009, 10:03:35 am
i spotted something about upgrading the injectors do u know anything about that ??
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: LoneWolf on August 08, 2009, 10:20:20 am
TBH im not too well clued up on injector swapping, but ive been lead to believe that for mild tuning the AAZ (mk3) injectors are good to go
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 08, 2009, 10:47:22 am
well i collect my aaz mk3 next week so al see how she drives still in the mk3 body first and then see if she wants an older shell to ride in 
cheers
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: jtanguay on August 10, 2009, 06:56:23 am
you will love the torque of the 1.9.  the only thing i would recommend is a taller transmission as the 1.9 doesn't like to rev like the 1.6.
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 10, 2009, 07:46:00 am
which transmission would be best ?
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: rallydiesel on August 11, 2009, 03:26:10 pm
Or put the 1.9 head on the GTD. If you go with the AAZ in the mk2, use the GTD pump and take the camplate out of the AAZ pump and put it in the 1.6 pump. The 1.6 pump has more adjustability than the AAZ pump. Don't bother messing with the nozzles, the GTD pump with the 1.9 camplate will put out more than enough fuel.
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 12, 2009, 04:45:26 am
ok well i wont be doing anything just yet as i`m going to get the mk2 body all repaired and resprayed before i do any changes to the engine
cheers
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: LoneWolf on August 12, 2009, 10:54:38 am
You got any pics then Bob m'laddo?
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 14, 2009, 06:08:31 am
i use a freinds tinterweb so i dont have any pics
ive got loads on my phone lol

well i got my mk3 (aaz) yesterday and she drives quite nice i`m suprised but i am still going to drop the aaz into my mk2 and shuv the gtd into my mk3 and use it for a while until i get everything sorted on the mk2  ... aaz requires a clutch desperatly and i aint sure if the 1.6 clutch will fit the 1.9
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: Smokey Eddy on August 14, 2009, 01:51:00 pm
Or put the 1.9 head on the GTD. If you go with the AAZ in the mk2, use the GTD pump and take the camplate out of the AAZ pump and put it in the 1.6 pump. The 1.6 pump has more adjustability than the AAZ pump. Don't bother messing with the nozzles, the GTD pump with the 1.9 camplate will put out more than enough fuel.

1.9 head on the GTD gets my vote!!! :D
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 22, 2009, 08:45:08 am
well ive changed the boost pin i swapped it with the one out of my gtd and it made a hell of a difference ive turned the fuel up, blocked the wastegate/dumpvalve thing and its lovely now
next job is to do the gov mod and install the intercooler....... wow its going to be lovely when i put the engine into my mk2
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: snakemaster on August 22, 2009, 11:35:43 am
nice one , i would put the aaz in the mk2 with the gtd turbo and a fmi ,rover boost pin , gov mod
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 23, 2009, 08:12:04 am
yeh i am going to drop the aaz into my mk2 in a week or so.
i`m not sure about swapping the turbo tho as i`m fairly chuffed with the kkk turbo its pulls so well
and yes i will be doing the gov probably in the next few days when it stops raining lol

just a concern the rear engine mount on the mk3 is different to the mk2  the mk3 mount is dead
does anyone know if the mk2 bracket will go straight onto the aaz engine ??

also would the rad out of the mk3 go into the mk2 ???
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: LoneWolf on August 23, 2009, 08:57:39 am
itll sit on the gtd mounts no problem fella :)
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 23, 2009, 09:16:53 am
i`m glad to hear that as the gtd mounts are brand new .. yippee

what about putting the mk3 rad into the mk2 ??

and would the mk3 driveshaft/cv fit onto the mk2 ??
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: LoneWolf on August 23, 2009, 09:51:53 am
the radiator will fit. as for the driveshafts, im still running the mk2 items on mine, only problem i have is chewing up cv joints because the cars so low ;)
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 23, 2009, 10:20:39 am
yeh thats what ive done to mine the offside cv is on its way out so thought i would save some money and see if the mk3 would fit lol

cheers for the info
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: snakemaster on August 23, 2009, 10:58:21 am
mk3 shafts are longer but the cv will fit your mk2 shafts , and as said your mk2 mounts will bolt up to the aaz ,
i had a mk2 1.6td in my other mk2 , done the gov mod , mod the lda pin , run more boost , put a wheel stud in the inlet man blow off valve , and this would pull as good as a mk2 8v gti  and 125mph  ;)
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 25, 2009, 01:51:47 pm
i am just making sure that ive got everything b4 i swap engines lol

oh that was another thing i was going to ask......would the mk3 bumpers fit the mk2 as its got the horrid small bumpers on my mk2 ??
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: rallydiesel on August 25, 2009, 01:56:39 pm
I doubt the mk3 bumpers would fit. It's too bad you don't live in north america cuz small bumpers seem to be the trend these days and you could trade for a set of big bumpers easily.
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Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on August 27, 2009, 07:25:55 am
 ???  ???  ???  ??? that has nothing to do with this thread

here are a couple of pictures of my cars and the engine thats in the mk3

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/bobmaf/IMG_1440.jpg)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/bobmaf/IMG_1441.jpg)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/bobmaf/IMG_1442.jpg)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/bobmaf/IMG_1443.jpg)
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on September 14, 2009, 05:44:35 pm
ive still not managed to get round to swapping the engines
but ive got the aaz booked in for a cambelt change this friday finally
and i`m off to trackrod rally near pickering (uk) on 26th sept and that means me taking my car onto the gravel track to get to my aquired camping spot lol
so i wont be swapping the engines till the end of the month saves killing the underside of my mk2 on the track :)
 
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2009, 12:26:46 pm
Looks good mate!

Why do all the other GTD owners have to live so far? It would be good to meet up and compare cars & mods  ;D 

Oh the GTD's came with smaller bumpers as standard, I won a rear Big Bumper for £1 on ebay the other day  ;D Just need to pick it up from a place 1.5hours away  ::)

Just need a front big bumper, couple cans of red paint and raise my car from -80mm to something sensible about -40mm  ;D 
Title: Re: mk2 or mk3 unsure which to use...
Post by: bobmaf on September 19, 2009, 03:06:23 am
yeh when i get it all sorted we could arrange a meet sometime
getting the cam belt changed on monday then i will be instyalling the 1.9 AAZ into my mk2

yeh small bumpers i hate them  i bought a set of big bumpers from a local scrapyard a few years ago for my 8v gti but got sick of the low mpg lol so sold it

1.6 GTD engine forsale north yorkshire if anyone is interested