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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: lovinthedeez on June 08, 2009, 08:26:44 pm
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this website looks awfully like the other one.....is it? the prices just seem too low....
http://www.jetta-parts.com/
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Same ::)
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I have quite a bit of experience with prothe. I have bought parts from him on eBay and on his site. I agree the site could be more organized. The first thing that I bought from him was a turbo, the turbo its self was great but the adaptor plates leaked. He replaced it right away with one that works great; in fact it is bigger than the factory one, which works great for my application. I have also bought a whole bunch of other parts including a Head. Most of us driving these cars cannot pay dealer prices, so I think that prothe is really offering a great service to those of us that cannot afford oem parts. I mean who can afford to spend 2 or more thousand dollars on a rebuild when the car isn’t worth much more than that.
I cannot vouch for others experiences but mine have been good so far, and I know others that will say the same.
-Chris
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and I know plenty who won't. I personally think it's a mixed bag with this guy. Some people end up very happy and save a lot of money ;D, and I know some people end up not so happy and spend a lot more than if they had just gone with a "professionally" rebuilt part :'(. But I do think that "prothe" has been making an effort to clean up his act. As I've noticed a lot less prothe bashing rants concerning defective parts.
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But I do think that "prothe" has been making an effort to clean up his act. As I've noticed a lot less prothe bashing rants concerning defective parts.
I agree.
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I to agree, I think he is starting to clean up his act.. From what I have noticed so far his service has improved.. He's still reluctant to tell the source (as in manufacturer) of most of his parts.. Pick and choose wisely and one can make out all right.. Still avoiding the IP's!!!
I took a chance and purchased a waterpump and lower gasket set when I purchased my pistons from him.. The waterpump and gaskets were made in China, just like the name brand stuff that cost 2x as much.... The waterpump actually looks to be made BETTER than the one I paid more for on the other car.. We'll see how it lasts...
The $18 IP seals I bought years ago (and waited forever for with no email response) are still going strong after 150K miles..
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so does he just have the same site under a bunch of different names. i was just wondering because someone was referring someone to the site on the vortex, and i haven't seen it under that name before. I didn't know that you could host a website under multiple domain names.
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Pretty much yes.. All the sites will get you about the same thing.. emiata.com seems to be his main site..
He is no longer "Prothe" on ebay... THe New id is Mickey444 or something like that...
Currently the list of site I have for him is:
Emiata.com
dieselvw.com
jetta-parts.com
volkspartswa.com
turbosandparts.com
ANyone else have anymore???
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Pretty much yes.. All the sites will get you about the same thing.. emiata.com seems to be his main site..
He is no longer "Prothe" on ebay... THe New id is Mickey444 or something like that...
Currently the list of site I have for him is:
Emiata.com
dieselvw.com
jetta-parts.com
volkspartswa.com
turbosandparts.com
ANyone else have anymore???
WOW !!! Its true. His ebay store has zero items. He had 98% good feedback on over 10,000 sales. Quite a good record for the volume to walk away from. I would why ? I got an email response from him when I started looking at my over heated head, but he didn't indicate he was changing things.
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Sweet baby J, can we stop talking about Prothe??
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Sweet baby J, can we stop talking about Prothe??
amen. i think we all know whats up with prothe by now.
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I bought a locking gas cap, a trunk lock and a head light switch from him. The keys looked different, but worked in both locks! :D The parts were very cheap in price I have to say. The switch turned out to be useless. The first click, I get the head light (should be parking light), second click I get the parking light but no headlight :D meaning I can't get parking and headlights working at the same time :D This reminds me I have to contact him about it.
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I to agree, I think he is starting to clean up his act.. From what I have noticed so far his service has improved.. He's still reluctant to tell the source (as in manufacturer) of most of his parts.. Pick and choose wisely and one can make out all right.. Still avoiding the IP's!!!
I took a chance and purchased a waterpump and lower gasket set when I purchased my pistons from him.. The waterpump and gaskets were made in China, just like the name brand stuff that cost 2x as much.... The waterpump actually looks to be made BETTER than the one I paid more for on the other car.. We'll see how it lasts...
The $18 IP seals I bought years ago (and waited forever for with no email response) are still going strong after 150K miles..
Have you installed the pistons yet ? I've wondered about them myself. I just got a set from Parts Place last winter {King} is the brand and I have about 4,000 on my T/D with them and they seem fine so far. I have a feeling they might be Chinese too but I could be wrong. I did have a problem with one though when I opened the boxes one of them had a wrist pin hole machined wrong but they straightened the problem out finaly after sending me a 1.9 piston next instead of 1.6 .020 oversize.
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Still waiting to get my block back from the machine shope... I told them no hurry since I didn;t really have the extra cash to be builing and engine at the time.. ::)
Upon inspection they seem to be fine.. They guys at HP Engines gave them the thumbs up and they be picky sum buggers.. Weight and dimenstions were dead on across the board.. Castings were fairly clean as well..
As they stated at the machine shop, like most everything else there are very few companies that make pistons anyhow, and they are mostly in Asia...
Rightway Industrial (Trim) who makes the prothe pistons also makes pistons and other various parts for: Kolbenshmidt K.K. , TRW, Mazda/Ford, Nissan, Honda, Yamaha, ZF, and Denso as well as some others..
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Still waiting to get my block back from the machine shope... I told them no hurry since I didn;t really have the extra cash to be builing and engine at the time.. ::)
Upon inspection they seem to be fine.. They guys at HP Engines gave them the thumbs up and they be picky sum buggers.. Weight and dimenstions were dead on across the board.. Castings were fairly clean as well..
As they stated at the machine shop, like most everything else there are very few companies that make pistons anyhow, and they are mostly in Asia...
Rightway Industrial (Trim) who makes the prothe pistons also makes pistons and other various parts for: Kolbenshmidt K.K. , TRW, Mazda/Ford, Nissan, Honda, Yamaha, ZF, and Denso as well as some others..
i think it would very funny if prothe's pistons are indeed the same as kolbenshmidt's.
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In some perverse way I would too.. I suppose just because they are made by the same company doesn;t mean they are made to the same specs and standards.. But then again for the cost to adjust production for several different brands could say otherwise...
Sears tires used to be a good example of this.. Sears woudl be selling Michelin tires hella cheap over everyone else.. However if you looked closely at the sidewalls it would read "Manufactured By Michelin for Sears" There were most definitely quality differences between the genuine article and the manufactured for ___ by ___.. This ended about 15 years ago when it finally became un compeditive to produce a separate line just for one client...
Another one that I ran into today
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In some perverse way I would too.. I suppose just because they are made by the same company doesn;t mean they are made to the same specs and standards.. But then again for the cost to adjust production for several different brands could say otherwise...
On the other hand, it could be that, say, pistons that don't meet one client's specs still meet another repackager's specs, and thus you could have two ostensibly identical products with two wildly different sets of standards. You have the "real" deal, and then you have the "rejects" from that tighter-standard client.
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In some perverse way I would too.. I suppose just because they are made by the same company doesn;t mean they are made to the same specs and standards.. But then again for the cost to adjust production for several different brands could say otherwise...
On the other hand, it could be that, say, pistons that don't meet one client's specs still meet another repackager's specs, and thus you could have two ostensibly identical products with two wildly different sets of standards. You have the "real" deal, and then you have the "rejects" from that tighter-standard client.
This has been standard practice in the computer world for decades... When Intel makes a cpu to run at 3 Ghz and half of them fail at 1.9 Ghz, they mark these scrap parts as 1.8 Ghz cpu's and sell them as new. There is an entire market setup around these rejects and items returned to the manufacturer. Unless its going in an airplane, I don't expect any changes.
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In some perverse way I would too.. I suppose just because they are made by the same company doesn;t mean they are made to the same specs and standards.. But then again for the cost to adjust production for several different brands could say otherwise...
On the other hand, it could be that, say, pistons that don't meet one client's specs still meet another repackager's specs, and thus you could have two ostensibly identical products with two wildly different sets of standards. You have the "real" deal, and then you have the "rejects" from that tighter-standard client.
This has been standard practice in the computer world for decades... When Intel makes a cpu to run at 3 Ghz and half of them fail at 1.9 Ghz, they mark these scrap parts as 1.8 Ghz cpu's and sell them as new. There is an entire market setup around these rejects and items returned to the manufacturer. Unless its going in an airplane, I don't expect any changes.
yea it's just like the playstation 3's cpu. it has about 8-9 cores in it, but sometimes 1 core is bad during the process, so they lock one core on the ones that are good... it does make sense.
i suppose there might be different additives in the metal to increase its strength added at a certain point in the process to making a better part too.
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i suppose there might be different additives in the metal to increase its strength added at a certain point in the process to making a better part too.
I could write a book on this ;-) . Metallurgy is still an art and not a science. Seriously. I worked in the melt lab of Howmett - a division of the largest maker of super alloys in the world. This is the metal used in all hot sections of every jet. The stuff the doctors call Stainless Steel that makes artificial hips and such (zero steel in this stuff but it looks like SS to the laymen) Here's the deal - yes, every ingredient in a metal has a profound affect on the metal's properties. 2 of the ingredients you don't think about - dissolved oxygen and dissolved nitrogen. If it is an air melt (as opposed to a vacuum melt) then every minute it is molten, it is absorbing O2 & N2, at 2 different rates. This also affect other important ingredients like Silicon & Manganese.
Bottom line: not only are the exact % of each ingredient important, so is the process used to melt it - how long and how fast each melting step takes. My boss was worried about the introduction of other metals. We typically melted 10,000 pounds at a time. In 1985 we sold this metal at $100 per pound. If an amount of metal the size of a $0.50 coin was dropped into the 10,000 # batch - I forget the exact metal, but it was something like Thallium or tellurium, then the entire batch would be useless as a super alloy as the properties would be garbage.
Now, the alchemy part - even if the chemistry of the metal was exactly in the range for each ingredient, the mechanical properties could be out of spec (ASTM XXXX) if the process steps were not correct (heat Ni Cr mix to 2600 for 10 minutes, add Co and bring to 2675, add Si, wait 1 minute, add Mn, deslag and pour into casting within 2 minutes)
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hmmm i bet getting the prothe pistons and coating the crown's might be just as good as the better alloy?
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I wanted to stay clear of this, but as it keeps going I have to. I have bought parts and will buy some more from him. I will only buy things that I can't get elsewhere or aren't a critical part. I would buy a door handle, but NEVER another IP. As you can tell you get what you pay for and I understand that, but when he did my pump and didn't even put the mounting plate on the delivery side of the pump I was mildly upset. When I had contacted him it took him close to 2 weeks to even respond and then another week to get me the part and then I was more than upset as I had sent him messages here, on ebay, and his personal email. I had seen him logged on here several times posted but didn't respond to me. My other concern was how do you test a pump that can't be mounted? I have bought some stuff since, but never again a pump or something of similar importance.
I FULLY understand the cheap parts, but the thing I have experienced just about everytime I have dealt with him his service has been poor. Good luck to all who try him, I just wouldn't expect much if I were you.
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I think VW already beat you to the punch on the 1.6TDI.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/05/18/volkswagen-announces-new-1-2l-tsi-and-1-6l-tdi-engines?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_autoblog
You probably already know that, I'm sure.
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I bought a timing tools set from him, and had very good service. responded to my one email the same day and the packaged arrived 12 days from the day i ordered it. Not bad for crossing the border and being it was ordered around december 12th :)
I can't say I have any complaints with the man.. Obviously he is not selling high quality stuff or else he wouldn't be a favourite among many budget-arians ;D:P
Keep up the good work man.