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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: barrygti on May 05, 2009, 03:47:46 am

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: barrygti on May 05, 2009, 03:47:46 am

Right I put a 1.6TD engine in my Skoda pickup, being a newer vehicle it has electrical cold start items on the pump.

I got the engine already out of a car so never got a cold start cable.

Firstly what way is the lever when not in cold start mode, towards the pump gear or towards the gearbox?

Secondly, lowest temps we see here is maybe -2C assuming the engine is good and glow plugs good and I set the timing up correctly, will I need the lever?  :)

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: arb on May 05, 2009, 08:16:56 am

With pimped GP, I never use mine. In fact, I never connected it to a cable for my diesel Caravan project.

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: jtanguay on May 05, 2009, 09:02:17 am

-2C you won't need the cold start.  i've used it on my 1.6 at around -10C or so, but like arb said if your glows are all working, it should start unless you have low compression.

toward the pump gear is cold start off.

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: burn_your_money on May 05, 2009, 10:09:37 am

If your pump has the fast idle as well, then it's worth hooking it up.

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: camboscams on May 05, 2009, 03:05:01 pm

Quote from: "burn_your_money"

If your pump has the fast idle as well, then it's worth hooking it up.

I have the high idle lever and it dosn't seem to do anything???? No cold start lever ether....

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: catlin_cava on May 05, 2009, 03:15:09 pm

i never used mine, cycle the GP's 2 times and it should go, rought idle thou

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: burn_your_money on May 05, 2009, 03:21:19 pm

Quote from: "camboscams"

I have the high idle lever and it dosn't seem to do anything???? No cold start lever ether....

You've tried moving it with the engine idling? It could just need an adjustment

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: maxfax on May 05, 2009, 04:56:13 pm

Never had to use my cold start for starting..   at -15 F  (-26c ??) and no block heater it fired right off..  I did however pull it on to help with idling till it warmed up...  The fast idle is quite nice..

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: vanbcguy on May 05, 2009, 08:56:50 pm

Hmm... starting to think I should get a compression tester... or maybe I need some more advance...

Now that it's over 10 degrees I don't need the cold start lever at all, but I definitely get ugly starts when it's below +5 or so without it... Even now sometimes I'll give it a quick tug to make her fire up nice then pop it back in as soon as she starts.

Right now my LDA is almost resting against my injector lines, so I need to advance a tooth on my timing belt if I want anything more...

Title: Cold start lever?? Can I do without it?
Post by: camboscams on May 06, 2009, 04:35:30 am

Quote from: "burn_your_money"

Quote from: "camboscams"

I have the high idle lever and it dosn't seem to do anything???? No cold start lever ether....

You've tried moving it with the engine idling? It could just need an adjustment

Tried it for real, it does work, not much but some.... It dosn't change the timing at all does it? The pump i've got doesn't have a cold start lever, i wish it did though. Probley no way to convert it to having one?