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Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on April 30, 2009, 09:37:37 am
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/P1000348.jpg)
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Heres some pictures finally! i know how all you guys like engine bay shots and such. anyone care to comment on anything? or suggestions for improvement? and i know its dirty, so please dont suggest that i wash it. its just too early for me to wash it right now. and thats not a bad paint job for 20 bucks eh? its far from perfect, but its better than baby blue and rust.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: drrtybyl on April 30, 2009, 12:08:28 pm
Love the badge, hehe.

Flat black == never needing a wash, correct?
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on April 30, 2009, 12:31:08 pm
oh no, flat black needs to be washed all the time. its ridicuious how easy it is to get it dirty now. but atleast the rear doesnt get black from soot anymore. it kinda matches the paint this way.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: rabbitman on April 30, 2009, 01:36:44 pm
Nice, that has the vnt-17?
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: hamradio on April 30, 2009, 04:51:50 pm
What intercooler are you running?
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: theman53 on April 30, 2009, 06:34:09 pm
My wife hates when I get the flat black out. I tell her its how you know a car is fast:D I admittidly don't wash the car to often. Where I live it is about 1/2 an hour to the closest interstate highway and mostly dirt roads all I would get done is washing so I don't do it much.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on April 30, 2009, 07:36:12 pm
Quote from: "rabbitman"
Nice, that has the vnt-17?


yea, VNT17 off an 01 ALH Jetta... scored it for free.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on April 30, 2009, 07:37:24 pm
Quote from: "hamradio"
What intercooler are you running?


its an IC out of a volvo 740. i would not suggest that anyone else tries to use one of these. it works great and everything, but its just too damn big to put in a rabbit. i had to do some serious modifying to make it fit.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on April 30, 2009, 07:39:07 pm
Quote from: "theman53"
My wife hates when I get the flat black out. I tell her its how you know a car is fast:D I admittidly don't wash the car to often. Where I live it is about 1/2 an hour to the closest interstate highway and mostly dirt roads all I would get done is washing so I don't do it much.


yea, im in the same boat. my car sees as many dirt/gravel roads as it does paved ones. and the only reason i chose flat black is cause it was 96 cents a can at wal-mart. and its soo much easier to make a nice rattle can paint job with flat paint then with gloss paint.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: drrtybyl on April 30, 2009, 07:58:51 pm
Quote from: "Rabbit on Roids"

its an IC out of a volvo 740. i would not suggest that anyone else tries to use one of these. it works great and everything, but its just too damn big to put in a rabbit. i had to do some serious modifying to make it fit.

What all did you have to do to your front end or the IC to get it to fit?  I take it you don't have AC?  I have a 740 intercooler and a much smaller one I picked up a while ago -- haven't tried test-fitting either yet, but space seems very limited.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: hamradio on April 30, 2009, 08:16:00 pm
So, wait...is the GT1749V a VNT15 or VNT17?
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: AudiVWguy on April 30, 2009, 10:10:09 pm
Wadja pay for the seats? (my favorite!!)
Window tint--hint hint
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 01, 2009, 09:44:59 am
Quote from: "AudiVWguy"
Wadja pay for the seats? (my favorite!!)
Window tint--hint hint


lol, i scored those pristene recaros from a buddy for 150 bucks.. they came from a 2 door something from the 90's i love those seats, there so comfy. and they are the most expensive part of the whole car. and window tint is coming after alaska. But my jetta is already set up w/ tint, 17's & low pros, and some serious suspension. ive never had a car stick to the road better. im pretty sure im gonna build a diesel to swap into my jetta also. it would be way more sexy with a rattlin' smoker under the hood.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 01, 2009, 09:47:30 am
Quote from: "hamradio"
So, wait...is the GT1749V a VNT15 or VNT17?


im pretty sure this is a 17, they had the 15's on the 90 horse ALH and they had the 17's on the 110 horse ALH's. and i did some looking into it and this turbo came off a 110 horse engine.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 01, 2009, 09:53:13 am
Quote from: "drrtybyl"
Quote from: "Rabbit on Roids"

its an IC out of a volvo 740. i would not suggest that anyone else tries to use one of these. it works great and everything, but its just too damn big to put in a rabbit. i had to do some serious modifying to make it fit.

What all did you have to do to your front end or the IC to get it to fit?  I take it you don't have AC?  I have a 740 intercooler and a much smaller one I picked up a while ago -- haven't tried test-fitting either yet, but space seems very limited.


lol, i had to do some extensive work with the grinder and cut off wheel. the distance between the bottom of the core support and the top, 12 inches and a little. the intercooler is 15.5 inches tall and it just BARELY fits in front of the radiator. i actually have a scoop so to speak of right under my bumper. the bottom 3 inches of the intercooler sticks out of it. i almost couldnt bring myself to cut up my core support, but i really wanna do a round clip conversion.. i dig those.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Smokey Eddy on May 01, 2009, 01:12:44 pm
FLAT BLACK FTW!!!! :D  :D  :D  :D  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: drrtybyl on May 01, 2009, 01:59:59 pm
Quote from: "theman53"
My wife hates when I get the flat black out. I tell her its how you know a car is fast:D I admittidly don't wash the car to often. Where I live it is about 1/2 an hour to the closest interstate highway and mostly dirt roads all I would get done is washing so I don't do it much.


I thought the standard method for cleaning flat black was simply to spray more flat black on top of the dirt rather than washing the unclean area(s)..
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 01, 2009, 02:02:24 pm
lol, thats one way to do it..
i like to atleast take mine out to the beach and bounce it off a few dunes to rough up the paint before spraying a new coat on top of it. its way easier than sanding.  :lol:
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: lovinthedeez on May 01, 2009, 07:38:57 pm
any pics from underneath looking up at the exhaust? or the downpipe?  
looks nice.  81 ftw
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6969/img2792gd4.jpg)
hey come get my shell you know you want it......
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: hamradio on May 01, 2009, 08:15:17 pm
^Forest green metallic FTW.  I love it on my car.


I do wish my car was 2 door, however.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 02, 2009, 09:41:32 am
i dont have any exhaust shots. and i wont be taking any with this exhaust system. its way embarrassing. its all stainless flex pipe. clear from the down pipe to the 40 series..

and i know i really do want your shell. i have a serious soft spot for 2 door rabbits. that one looks like its still in pretty good shape.. but how big is the dent in the drivers door? fixable or just neeeds a new door?
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: lovinthedeez on May 02, 2009, 11:18:14 am
that was the day i bought it, its come a ways since then.  check it out
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3820857[/quote]
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 02, 2009, 11:23:34 am
OMG @ your grille... i friggin dig the *** out of that.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on May 02, 2009, 11:31:50 am
ok, so a kid wants to trade me a straight 87 cabriolet for my 80 4 door bunny. you guys think its a worth while trade? or would you guys hang onto the 80?
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: vegfuel on May 02, 2009, 09:03:58 pm
Wait second, Im confused when I look at the engine. Where's the turbo? It looks like you just put on a gasser intake.
Title: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: rabbitman on May 03, 2009, 10:34:56 am
Quote
Wait second, Im confused when I look at the engine. Where's the turbo? It looks like you just put on a gasser intake.


Tucked down behind there is a vnt........
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: vwjones on August 20, 2009, 11:24:17 am
ooooo that's sweeet
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: drrtybyl on August 20, 2009, 01:37:10 pm
Gotta love the 2dr Rabbit... It's a street legal go cart that isn't made by Honda  ;D
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on August 21, 2009, 08:15:13 am
yea, pretty much. i love the part that it feels solid when you close the door, instead of the whole car flexing cause its a plastic honda.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit TD on August 21, 2009, 06:55:17 pm
I'd swear that's my car in your avitar, even how the front end sits a little higher, even the wheels look close but I can't quite make them out.  Mine are the full cover type, I don't know what year they are but my buddy gave them to me, they are easy to keep clean.  It seems like half the cars on here are 81 Rabbits.  I wonder why so many more 81's  than other years?
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: truckoSaurus08 on August 21, 2009, 06:58:07 pm
 I dont know but my Caddy is an 81 too. ;D
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: macka on August 22, 2009, 01:34:28 am
81 was the year vw perfected the rabbit
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: vwjones on August 22, 2009, 03:28:08 am
Quote
Wait second, Im confused when I look at the engine. Where's the turbo? It looks like you just put on a gasser intake.

Tucked down behind there is a vnt........

Hey rabbit, how hard was it to add the vnt?  i'm starting to think that my T2 isn't going to blow my GTD up fast enough to suit me. ;)
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on August 22, 2009, 09:47:47 am
the pic in the avatar, thats my rabbit before i got ahold of it. it was perfectly straight before a subaru hit me. now it has a beat up front driver fender. but im waiting for a nice cabby front end to put on it. and those arent the complete disk wheels, those are just normal rabbit wheels, caps and beauty rings.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on August 22, 2009, 09:58:15 am
i think the VNT is the turbo to use on a rabbit honestly. they come on low and strong, fit just right around our shift linkages/axles/transmission. and i love the way it sounds. it has a way louder turbo howl than my cars that have a normal turbo.

and if you are worryin about not being able to blow it up fast enough, it took me almost a year at 35psi to blow up my first engine, and it still ran fine even after 40+ psi boost, but it would hold NO WATER. i pretty much cracked the drivers side end of the block off. then i parked it at my grandpas, let her sit over night. then went back down there the next day with 5 gallons of water, and used it all getting it home, witch was about 2 miles.

and for what you guys are saying about 81's, they must all be where ever you guys are... cause i only know of two 81 rabbits around me. mine, and my grandpas caddy. everything else is either way newer, or way older. theres lots and lots of newer cabbys around here. i wish mine was a pre 81, i hate the rect. head lights. and then i would have the right engine in my car too, cause im pretty sure 79 or 80 was the last year of the 1.5? and the last year for sweet front ends.

and has anyone ever heard that a small amount of 81 rabbits were galvanized at the factory? im pretty sure i got one, cause it rains all the time, and rabbits rust out fast here. usually every rabbit i see has holes at the corners of the windshields. but mine is rust free. kinda nice having a rust free car in a rain forest.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit TD on August 22, 2009, 10:21:20 am
^Forest green metallic FTW.  I love it on my car.


I do wish my car was 2 door, however.
Well the 2 doors might have a certain appeal to them, my 81 is a 2 door and at times I kind of wish it was a 4 door but God help you if you ever need to find a door for a 2 door one.  I had a terrible time finding a pass door for mine a while back.  The junk yards even got on their search thing they have and couldn't find one but I finaly did stumble on one that was real good.  Even if you actualy ind one most of them will be rusted pretty bad but there are 4 door types everywhere.  I think they said the trucks use the 4 door style door too if that helps anybody and the Cabroliets are their own breed because of not having the top peice on them.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on August 22, 2009, 10:25:03 am
^Forest green metallic FTW.  I love it on my car.


I do wish my car was 2 door, however.
Well the 2 doors might have a certain appeal to them, my 81 is a 2 door and at times I kind of wish it was a 4 door but God help you if you ever need to find a door for a 2 door one.  I had a terrible time finding a pass door for mine a while back.  The junk yards even got on their search thing they have and couldn't find one but I finaly did stumble on one that was real good.  Even if you actualy ind one most of them will be rusted pretty bad but there are 4 door types everywhere.  I think they said the trucks use the 4 door style door too if that helps anybody and the Cabroliets are their own breed because of not having the top peice on them.

there are tons of 2 door cars in portland. and im NEVER GOING TO OWN A 4 door... i dont fit in the damn things, im 6'7"
you ever notice how the seat goes way farther back on a 2 door car? well i did.. my seat is about 3-4 inches from the back seat, and the seat rails are stock. and 4 door rabbit doors dont fit on a caddy, we tried it on my grandpas caddy, and none of the rabbit doors worked. someone told me jetta doors are shaped differently and bolt to a caddy tho. never tried it, but i dont know why jetta doors would be any different from rabbit doors. but they dont fit on caddys.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit TD on August 22, 2009, 10:29:25 am
81 was the year vw perfected the rabbit
Yes that's the first year for the 1.6 but I just don't know why there are so many 81's than the following years.  I don't think I've even seen a 82 or 83 but a few 84's.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on August 22, 2009, 10:31:48 am
81 was the year vw perfected the rabbit
Yes that's the first year for the 1.6 but I just don't know why there are so many 81's than the following years.  I don't think I've even seen a 82 or 83 but a few 84's.

like i say, 81 is the rare year around me. i can get 2's 3's and 4's all day long around here. 81 and older are not as common here. MK2's are so common around here its unbelievable.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 14, 2010, 09:37:35 am
this is my topic, and i think i have a right to bump it, even tho i can not edit it or anything like that..

DIfferent Rabbit tho, so i think i will post it up..

(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000394.jpg)

And an engine bay shot just for shiggles..
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000411.jpg)
next to my old rabbit engine..
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/P1000351.jpg)
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: GEE-BEE on December 14, 2010, 10:59:38 am
Nice radiator mount's...
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: rallydiesel on December 14, 2010, 11:35:45 am
I love Rabbits. I haven't been able to find one in my area that has a decent body though.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: AudiVWguy on December 14, 2010, 10:12:27 pm
Rabbit,
How are you controlling the VNT on your set up?
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 15, 2010, 07:45:31 am
Nice radiator mount's...

that was temporary until i could figure out a better way to mount the radiator.. if you look closely, the radiator is UP SIDE DOWN.. lol.

intercooler pushed the rad too far back and the alt started hitting it..
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 15, 2010, 07:46:36 am
Rabbit,
How are you controlling the VNT on your set up?

im not. the vanes are stuck on my turbo..

and now they are probably VERY stuck, because i have not disassembled the turbo in a very long time.
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 15, 2010, 10:42:50 am
put some new shoes on my rabbit.. looks ALOT BETTER imho..
i like the meshies better on the mk1 than i did on the mk2.. but it still handles like crap. no sway bars </3
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/P1000430.jpg)
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: RadoTD on December 15, 2010, 12:40:13 pm
Those mesh wheels looksweet! I've always had a soft spot for mk1's. Someday I'll have to build one. Nothing as crazy as yours though! :)
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 16, 2010, 07:23:46 am
Those mesh wheels looksweet! I've always had a soft spot for mk1's. Someday I'll have to build one. Nothing as crazy as yours though! :)

mine is far from crazy.. i havent modified anything, besides the engine, and a couple badges..

i really want more power.. 20psi/no smoke right now.. im really thinking i could squeeze a little more out of the engine how it is now even. i have a few turns of fuel screw left, and quite a bit of idle adjustment left also.

how do you think a K26 would work together with my VNT? ive been throwing that idea around alot lately..

but neither turbo is wastegated.. so who knows how many psi it will make..
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: AudiVWguy on December 16, 2010, 03:25:56 pm
Which position would you say the vanes are locked up in? When would you say that the boost comes on? This sounds like a happy accident that's working well for you.
Cheers,
-JB
Title: Re: My build up of the Un-naturally aspirated 81.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on December 16, 2010, 03:40:57 pm
Which position would you say the vanes are locked up in? When would you say that the boost comes on? This sounds like a happy accident that's working well for you.
Cheers,
-JB

i took the turbo apart and set the vanes as far open as possible, then put it back together.. it was alot easier to take it apart and just set them where i wanted them, because they were all pretty stuck..