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Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: fillmore on September 01, 2005, 07:58:19 am

is it possible to turbo a straight 1.6? ive got a motor in great shape, i juat did the rings, gaskets and valve seals but rust got the best of the floor so the shell of the car is no longer good to me, i did however just pick up a very mint 89 jetta gasser and i was thinking about swaping out the engine next summer so is it possible to turbo the non turbo 1.6 diesel engines? all i can think of is the turbo, the manifold, intercooler oil lines to the turbo but what else would be involved if it is possible? wastegate perhaps?

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: BlackTieTD on September 01, 2005, 08:57:47 am

you're much better off finding a complete 1.6L turbo diesel setup and swapping the works over.

you could try to turbo what you've got but, i wouldn't.

 :)

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: entuzijast on September 01, 2005, 11:23:35 am

You could but i think that won't be lasting too much...

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: vwmike on September 01, 2005, 11:54:19 am

IF you do it the biggest thing you need to watch is exhaust gas temperatures. Especially climbing long grades they can get really high and since the N/A engine doesn't have squirters it cannot cope with the high temperatures as well as the TD engine can. You could end up with melted pistons and/or cooked rings.

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: jtanguay on September 01, 2005, 02:19:53 pm

you're best bet would be to get a nice small turbo, bigger exhaust, and an IC, and an EGT gauge (and possibly oil temp/pres gauge?)

as long as you don't drive it like an idiot it should hold up.

just remember don't get a big turbo... they take a longer time to spool and usually inrease egt's by a lot more than a small less restrictive turbo such as a K14

and like anyone else will add.  Don't mess around too much with fueling if you're going to do this!!!

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: Northboundtrain on September 01, 2005, 06:08:58 pm

Quote from: "jtanguay"

just remember don't get a big turbo... they take a longer time to spool and usually inrease egt's by a lot more than a small less restrictive turbo such as a K14

Any suggestions on where to find a K14?

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: entuzijast on September 02, 2005, 02:35:31 am

Eco diesels (1V) and some of the strongest diesels with 80Hp came with K14...

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: jtanguay on September 02, 2005, 04:09:25 am

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Any suggestions on where to find a K14?

which basically comes back to BlackTieTD's recommendation of trying to find a complete engine.  You can definitely try the wreckers, but you'll mostly find the bigger turbo's if any at all.

Title: why not a GT15 or K03 ?
Post by: DieselMonkey on September 02, 2005, 04:41:19 am

A Garrett GT15 or KKK K03 would be a better turbo. They use a differet bolt-up arrangment than a K14 or Garrett T2. My Eco has a K14 and its pretty good, but with 15 years on it, 122,000 miles it is starting to weep at the compressor housing, possibly blow-by though.

I have 2 GT15's (no matching manifolds), 1 K03 with 4 matching manifolds and a Garrett T2 with no maching manifold. If you have trouble getting a turbo, i would consider selling one. You'll really need a EGT gauge. Contact Evan at 42 Draft designs.

[email protected] .....its a VDO unit costing $135 with gauge and probe.

I've got a 1.6GTD block with melted pistons but n/a pistons are probably of a different alloy also, but it will take a turbo no problem. Fuel it a bit, just dont keep the fuel on when it starts to smoke.

regards, DM

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: jtanguay on September 02, 2005, 02:21:17 pm

how much do you want for a K03????????

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: DieselMonkey on September 04, 2005, 09:36:18 am

I sent you a PM

DM

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: jtanguay on September 04, 2005, 02:24:02 pm

thanks!!  and btw, if you're going to turbo an N/A be sure to get an oil cooler.   either liquid to liquid or air/liquid type should be good

Title: turboing a non turbo 1.6?
Post by: carrizog60 on September 10, 2005, 12:44:31 am

i have a 1.6gtd but is mess...
i can arrange a 1.6D is good shape.are the oil squirters the only difference?can i swap the oil squirters to the 1.6D. my turbo is a KKK24 :?: