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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: the caveman on March 28, 2009, 08:57:45 am
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So i'm pretty sure i'm gonna bit the proverbial bullet and get a pump built from Giles. It's for my 1.9 na and don't tell me to turbo it, i can't be bothered, and i don't have the time. I have already had a pump built with a 10mm head and all the timing advance goodies done. Question is will one of his super pumps give me more low down torque. I don't really care as much about horsepower as it's going into my 1990 transporter and it needs more low down oommmpphh. If seen some graphs but i need more info before jumping in.
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I guess you're asking a question that only Giles can answer, so ask him. I, personally, have never seen a non-turbo 1.9 here in Canada. We got the AAZ in the Mk 3 and I have a Giles pump on a T3 turboed AAZ in my Mk 1 Caddy. The torque is fantastic.
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don't tell me to turbo it,
turbo it :lol:
n/a and torque?it would be more expensive than turbo ...
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I am not going to turbo.it Don't have the time or energy to start doing big modifications on yet another vehicle. I have my 2160 cc dual weber 1971 beetle for that. I'm a big believer in KISS [keep it simple stupid]
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I trust what Giles is saying,I'm just trying to get a little more real world opinions. I am wondering how much of a difference going from a 10mm head to an 11mm will do, besides top end fueling.
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I'm sure there are a few people that have NA's with Giles pumps. Chime in guys!
I also found that going with a lightened flywheel gave me more low end torque, due to less rotating mass.
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I'm sure there are a few people that have NA's with Giles pumps. Chime in guys!
I also found that going with a lightened flywheel gave me more low end torque, due to less rotating mass.
Tyler does. he even has a video of a dyno run i believe i wished i saved it.. his appearances are rather rare lately :( lol
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I think if you put a letter in with the pump telling him what your main areas of improvement you would like to have and also what you don't want and in what and how it will be driven then he will better know how to set it up for you because what works for one vehicle might not work for another especialy for low end torque.
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Give him a call and see if he can't set it up to how you want it.
905-940-2266
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I am not going to turbo.it Don't have the time or energy to start doing big modifications on yet another vehicle. I have my 2160 cc dual weber 1971 beetle for that. I'm a big believer in KISS [keep it simple stupid]
or the price of the Giles pump, you can get a new turbo that will bolt on to your 1.9 w/o custom work and this will solve your need for torque. I'm sure his pump will get you most of the way there, but you'll be bellowing black smoke to get there. Diesel will be back to $4 / gallon soon enough so it will pay for itself in fuel savings.
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or the price of the Giles pump, you can get a new turbo that will bolt on to your 1.9 w/o custom work and this will solve your need for torque. I'm sure his pump will get you most of the way there, but you'll be bellowing black smoke to get there. Diesel will be back to $4 / gallon soon enough so it will pay for itself in fuel savings.
If Giles builds your pump, you won't be billowing black smoke (unless you ask for it). Turbos are a PITA.
I know with my pump, the bottom end power increase is amazing.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/StockVSPerfpumplegend.jpg)
Giles can get 150 HP out of a 9mm plunger, so I don't think you'll need ot be upgrading to an 11
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There he is! and with the Dyno i was speaking of. It's got a nice increase right across the board.
Giles FTW. :P
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Alright i'm in. I may wait a bit because i also run on WVO and i think it would be better to break the pump in a bit, especially because in July i will going to New Brunswick and back [2400 km's] and there is no way i ain't doing all on diesel. Last year it cost me $2.00 for the trip.
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Come down for this. It's a blast.
http://www.customobsessions.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=23958
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What are the dates ?
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Cruise to moncton is on the 5th and the show itself is on the 6th, and for the record the word show is used very loosely no judging or anything like that, just a whole lot of vw people getting together for a good time.
More info can be found here http://www.customobsessions.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=23638
1SlowVW
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or the price of the Giles pump, you can get a new turbo that will bolt on to your 1.9 w/o custom work and this will solve your need for torque. I'm sure his pump will get you most of the way there, but you'll be bellowing black smoke to get there. Diesel will be back to $4 / gallon soon enough so it will pay for itself in fuel savings.
If Giles builds your pump, you won't be billowing black smoke (unless you ask for it). Turbos are a PITA.
I know with my pump, the bottom end power increase is amazing.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/StockVSPerfpumplegend.jpg)
Giles can get 150 HP out of a 9mm plunger, so I don't think you'll need ot be upgrading to an 11
Tyler any figures on fuel economy yet? i'm quite interested. most people wouldn't believe you could get turbo power from a non aspirated diesel. and in most cases i bet your car is faster than a stock TD engine, especially without the lag :D
i still cant wait to get my setup working right... to see what his pump can do on the dyno :twisted:
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I would love to dyno my car, but the only one in town says no diesels :(
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Sorry for slacking on the mileage numbers. I got as good as 4.9l/100kms but up until today it was getting around 6.0/100km which I'm guessing is because of the lack of compression. Before the winter I was usually getting 5.0 to 5.8l/100km depending on how I drove it.
But that motor is no longer in my car. I now have a 1.9 NA (freshly installed) My mom is getting that pump in her car
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I now have a 1.9 NA (freshly installed)
You have a weird obsession with N/a's don't you... :P