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General Information => General => Topic started by: 8v-of-fury on March 13, 2009, 03:19:15 pm
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This thread doesn't apply to a Volkswagen, or even a Car :lol:
It is regarding my Polaris Atv. It doesn't really matter because it is a carb related question. Polaris and Vw use a ot of similar parts :P both my car and atv have VDO gauges, Sachs struts, and if i had a carb car it would probably have a similar Mikuni carb. :P
Anywhoo.. the weird thing is, is that it idles fine right where it should at 1100rpm but when i go to move or put a load on the engine it bogs down. This problem will go away if i pull the choke out to a point if i let it idle down it will stall itself out.
It runs ok just this minor issue..maybe a mixture issue? what ya'll diesel guys think?
I know I am asking for you to go outside your comfort zones and deal with a gas contraption.. but you guys are good here... lmao :P
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check the air cleaner? :lol: thats about all the input i have. as i haven't had much experience with carbs. there was one time where some dufus put gas in the oil, and made a huge mess. with a flush of the oil it ran good afterward but would chugg/stall if the air filter was put on. soaked in gas, the gas turned black because it was saturated in the super thinned oil. :shock: afterwards it ran just fine! :lol:
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Pull the air cleaner off and with the engine running take a piece of cardboard and slowly put it across the carb throat. If the engine speeds up slightly before it stalls out, you are too lean. If it just dies instantly, you are too rich. This presumes of course that your problem is with your air/fuel mixture. With what you are doing with your choke, I think it points to lean. I am not familiar with the carb on your Polaris, but most have some type of enrichment circuit to inject a bit of extra fuel as you first apply the throttle until the air flow can pull more fuel into the carb. It could be some type of squirter, secondary linkage adjustment or power valve. Best bet is to get to your local library and see if you can find a decent manual that tells you how to adjust your carb.
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Anywhoo.. the weird thing is, is that it idles fine right where it should at 1100rpm but when i go to move or put a load on the engine it bogs down. This problem will go away if i pull the choke out to a point if i let it idle down it will stall itself out.
The choke increases the fuel ratio in the mixture, so IMHO it is probably running lean in the lower revs. There are generally a couple screws to adjust both the idle mixture and the throttle position at idle. Don't touch anything else if the engine is running well in the mids/highs. Get a manual, as clbanman sugests. :)
Could be that you got some moisture in the carb. They have a drain screw.
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Check the sparkplug(s)!
http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/technical/diagnosis.htm
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This is the reason why I LOVE THIS FORUM! :lol:
For some diesel freaks you guys responded fast to a gas question :)
Another weird thing is, is this sometimes goes away when it is Fully warmed-up. Air cleaner is off at the moment it was saturated in gas last fall and deteriorated over the winter :P
Pull the air cleaner off and with the engine running take a piece of cardboard and slowly put it across the carb throat. If the engine speeds up slightly before it stalls out, you are too lean. If it just dies instantly, you are too rich. This presumes of course that your problem is with your air/fuel mixture.
I think it is a air/fuel thing, but only an idle deal. it will hum along fine through the range (2500-6100) its just that initial start off seems a little weak, some sputtering and surging.. also notice a small backfiring sound coming from the carb... but it all goes away with a small movement of the choke.. this is beyond me :P
Check the sparkplug(s)!
I would assume it needs a tuneup bad, along with a fuel, air filter and oil change.. but its running fine.. so it doesn't need it yet :P I have a Polaris shop manual for it, i will drain the carb, and i will check out these adjustment screws. thanks guys!
Here is a pic for kicks last night after i put all the plastics back on with zipties :P!! bolts are over-rated.. plus all the mounting holes are trashed :P
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Main jet is plugged..
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i would have agreed with you there Dan when i pulled it out of my backyard a couple months ago after parking it where it died 9-10 months ago.
it ran like total CRAP, then i ran some ATF through it and it seemed to clear it up insanely well. maybe it needs some more.. how else would you free a main jet easily.. without removing the carb.. :lol:
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
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one cylinder engines are very touchy to air volume. I had to rejet my honda when I added a K&N filter. My friend had a kawasakii and had to rejet for every 10-15 degree temp change up or down=race bike. All that said if it is doing this when you have no air cleaner on it that could be the deal. If it was doing it before the air cleaner was removed then I would say it could be the jet(s)/fuel/spark. If it is like the honda carbs they had an idle jet and a main. I don't think you'll need to rejet unless you changed something like the air cleaner/head pipe. But I would say that the idle jet could still have crap in it as it is really only used a idle and then the needle takes over right off idle up to WOT where it is unrestricted main jet. Maybe you could dump the fuel out*especially if its old* and try some carb cleaner straight into it leave it soak. Or take the carb off and inspect and clean. I usually changed the plug in mine every 5-10 hours or so of running but I was anal about that stuff.
Why did it die 9-10 months ago??? That could be a better place for me to start.
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one cylinder engines are very touchy to air volume. I had to rejet my honda when I added a K&N filter. My friend had a kawasakii and had to rejet for every 10-15 degree temp change up or down=race bike. All that said if it is doing this when you have no air cleaner on it that could be the deal. If it was doing it before the air cleaner was removed then I would say it could be the jet(s)/fuel/spark. If it is like the honda carbs they had an idle jet and a main. I don't think you'll need to rejet unless you changed something like the air cleaner/head pipe. But I would say that the idle jet could still have crap in it as it is really only used a idle and then the needle takes over right off idle up to WOT where it is unrestricted main jet. Maybe you could dump the fuel out*especially if its old* and try some carb cleaner straight into it leave it soak. Or take the carb off and inspect and clean. I usually changed the plug in mine every 5-10 hours or so of running but I was anal about that stuff.
Why did it die 9-10 months ago??? That could be a better place for me to start.
Hmm, What you say sounds about right. It is a Twin engine but i'm sure it is sensitive to air volume as well as with the singles. It does not have the stock exhaust so this could be where the problem arose? I have a cherry bomb glass-pack on there right now, sounds real good too :P So by removing the air cleaner and putting a straight through exhaust then this engine is now capable of moving the air through it with very little to no restrictions correct? There wasn't much fuel in it when i parked it so its all been run out now, as i have filled it twice since then and run ATF through both tanks and it seemed to help a ton with the over all running condition of the engine.
The reason it died 9 months ago wasn't engine related, it was the charging system. wouldn't recharge while running so it ran the battery in to the ground. I didn't ride it much at the time so it sat until last month when i was bored one weekend and went to dig it out :P surprisingly when i hooked up a new battery to it, it fired right up. Now miraculously it is charging now.. this thing is EFFED LOL
thanks for all the help guys.
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New pipe=mixture screw or jetting required.
I like to do a jet kit with a fat needle when doing that. It will increase the off idle performance even more. on the side of the carb there should be a screw that is like an air screw on the bigger 4bbl carbs. like everything make marks and record where to go back to and make adjustments 1/8 to a 1/4 turn at a time. You might not have to jet it that way.
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Does this carb utilize an accelerator pump? If so, this is the range where an accelerator pump diaphragm (damaged) would show up. I used to have a Honda XR which utilized an acc. pump.
Is this a 4 stoke engine? The carb really needs to be disassembled and cleaned.
The bottom end (lower revs) is where the pilot jet (idle jet) begins handing off to the needle jet, which eventually hands off the assignment to the main jet.
However, carburation is not THAT regimented. There is overlap on the job of the jets while controlling fuel. It's all a never-ending ballet of gas flow and the path it takes based upon vacuum.
And if you think about all of what is going on while you blast through the woods.....you will hit a tree!!!!!
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Sorry, I did not take the time to read Lucas' explanation of jetting above.
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I would take the carb off, dissassemble and clean it, put it back on install a new air filter and a new spark plug. Then it will run fine...
To me it sounds like a clogged main jet or maybe accelerator pump issue...
Ultrasonic cleaner is really handy for cleaning carbs if you have acces to one. Best regards/ Tommy
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
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Don't limit it to the 67. Any of those Chrysler products with 6-packs, dual 4's, or cross-ram intakes are sweet. Plus with that kind of power it doesn't matter if you're fat, you can still take the guy in the lane beside you.
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I went out for a run today with a few people (Brother, Mom, and Ex-Step dad Peter.. long story lol) On what I like to call it's Maiden voyage.
If anyone is looking to get an ATV do not get a Polaris.. ever.. it will give you nothing but the biggest PITA.
This is probably one of the few runs where all three of our Polaris's went out and came back with nothing wrong with them. That being said.. mine hasn't been too too bad. the worst that happened was a belt snapped.. and that was cause it was long over due on the change. But my mom's and Peter's have had bearing issues galore, front and rear hub issues trans issues.. it never stops.
HOWEVER! It did not display the problem at all today.. None what so ever. It was absolutely beautiful. The only thing that went wrong with our 4 hour ride was my cherry bomb fell off right near the end, because i got MAD air and knocked it loose. And even running straight pipe the power of the machine was still there, and it didn't have any different feeling, other than being loud as all hell. Which brings me back to the Re-jetting issue, if you guys thought it was a re-jet issue than why was the problem not apparent today? and even more so after the exhaust was straight pipe? I don't know what its problem is.. :P Doesn't really seem like a problem really... lol
Don't limit it to the 67. Any of those Chrysler products with 6-packs, dual 4's, or cross-ram intakes are sweet. Plus with that kind of power it doesn't matter if you're fat, you can still take the guy in the lane beside you.
With that kind of power you could have your car loaded with people and pass a civic like it was standing still :P I love muscle cars, for there shear brute force of power. Like they say there is no replacement for displacement. lol Sadly a 6-pack or dual quads dump in something like what 10,000L/min of gas... lmao and at that rate, and the amount of WOT you'd most definitely be doing.. you would be lucky to get like 10mpg
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I went on the Hot Rod Power Tour(a cross country car show where all the cars drive from stop to stop) in 2001, and most of the muscle cars there were getting in the range of 2-3MPG, lots of stopping at gas stations.
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I went on the Hot Rod Power Tour(a cross country car show where all the cars drive from stop to stop) in 2001, and most of the muscle cars there were getting in the range of 2-3MPG, lots of stopping at gas stations.
holy crap! 2-3mpg... :roll: :lol: maybe they should ease off the pedal a wee bit???
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i think i helped jack my own thread.. ?? lmao
I have a 67 cougar, 302 4bbl.. i have yet to drive.. its in pieces in my garage for the last three years.. it pains me every time i go in there... I cant wait to see what kinda mileage it gets with its 16 gal tank LOL Thats like 60L holy crap that's bigggg lol
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I went on the Hot Rod Power Tour(a cross country car show where all the cars drive from stop to stop) in 2001, and most of the muscle cars there were getting in the range of 2-3MPG, lots of stopping at gas stations.
holy crap! 2-3mpg... :roll: :lol: maybe they should ease off the pedal a wee bit???
No way!! Drop the hammer on 600 ponies and the smile will never leave your face. The SOUND!!! 6-pack gas sucking, tire burning, 400-500 cubic inch engine redlining, slam shifting, frame twisting, head snapping coolness!! The sound scares women and makes children cry :twisted:
Man Town in all it's glory.
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i think i helped jack my own thread.. ?? lmao
I have a 67 cougar, 302 4bbl.. i have yet to drive.. its in pieces in my garage for the last three years.. it pains me every time i go in there... I cant wait to see what kinda mileage it gets with its 16 gal tank LOL Thats like 60L holy crap that's bigggg lol
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But in all seriousness,
i raced an 11 second 73 nova on the 1/4 mile a couple times. I still piss my self a little when I think back to it.
I helped my buddy build his 327 (in a camaro, don't know the year. Dont care much for camaros) with a holley carb and edlebrock intake manifold. It made about 500hp (Edit: he says 500 but i think its more like 350-400 MAX). That, plus a 4 speed, was a FUN machine to drive. But i'd rather drive my 1600 CC oil burner anyday :P unless i won the lottery :roll:
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Is this Polaris a twin carb machine? If it is I bet you got a plugged pilot jet. Sounds like it fixed itself though.
My snowmachine did that a few years ago and idle was bad but cruising was fine, then I did a high speed run and fried one cylinder.
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:? I never got an email to alert me of the last like 20 posts??
HAHA! ED! you kill me!!! I'm gonna bet all that awesome knowledge was from memory was it not? :lol: Oooh the 73 nova *drrrooolls* Ed, if you won the lottery you know you'd still drive the dub.. you'd just PIMP it the HELL out!! lol I would do the same.. and I'd use the money to find a turbo engine and get rid of the N/a... Or make a go-kart out of it! :P Seriously i had an insane idea.. if i only had a welder and kept the strut assemblies and steering knuckles from the golf i got the engine from... You could SOO totally make a wicked awesome go-kart of it.. LMAO Tube framed!
Is this Polaris a twin carb machine?
I wish! Twin machine, one carb.. what were they thinking!? haha fuel economy, and ease of use.. lol Yeah i dunno on the ride it was really good.. not a single problem. and this time i didn't even have a fan on it. and over heating is its usual problem.
No way!! Drop the hammer on 600 ponies and the smile will never leave your face. The SOUND!!! 6-pack gas sucking, tire burning, 400-500 cubic inch engine redlining, slam shifting, frame twisting, head snapping coolness!! The sound scares women and makes children cry Twisted Evil
Man Town in all it's glory.
MAN I LOVE MUSCLE CARS!! Nothing like a big block!! My grandmother drives a 77 Chrysler Cordoba.. you know the ones with white Corinthian leather? lol 400ci 4bbl goddamn it moves pretty good with its auto three speed. Ice cold factory A/C, cruise, power seats and windows. I want it for myself!! lol
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if i won the lottery... i'd build a titanium cummins engine with about 200 psi boost, tons of low end torque... i'd shoot for at least 2000 ft/lbs, and then build an insane gearbox to handle the torque and make it super tall geared... all in a nice big truck :twisted:
and i'd also like to have a diesel car as well. :lol: i'd try a 16 valve mTDI if its possible...
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hey man, with money anything is possible :P!
That truck would be nice... :) I'd build a diesel powered go-kart lmao
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hey man, with money anything is possible :P!
That truck would be nice... :) I'd build a diesel powered go-kart lmao
with a 3 cyl TDI engine :twisted:
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us :P I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! :P not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us :P I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! :P not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us :P I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! :P not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic :( my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us :P I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! :P not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic :( my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out (http://schou.dk/hvce/). not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
polish mechanics are famous for one thing. doing things on the cheap. this guy doesn't cost a lot. hes super cool and very honest. but man is he cheap :lol: knows ALL the tricks for the older VW/Audi's
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us :P I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! :P not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic :( my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out (http://schou.dk/hvce/). not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
do you know how to adjust mixture? I kno how to do timing, but i cant even fathom mixture on that thing :P gotta mess with the fuel dist behind the battery im assuming?
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us :P I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! :P not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic :( my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out (http://schou.dk/hvce/). not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
do you know how to adjust mixture? I kno how to do timing, but i cant even fathom mixture on that thing :P gotta mess with the fuel dist behind the battery im assuming?
i'm trying to recall... its near the throttle plate area. he inserts this long allen type tool and turns it to adjust the mixture. VERY cool! unfortunately thats about all i know... i've just watched him do it. i bet the 'tex would have some info on this. he has a really good ear... he times engines by ear, and i swear they run VERY well using this technique, but it takes more time than with a dial gauge.
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us :P I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! :P not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic :( my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out (http://schou.dk/hvce/). not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
do you know how to adjust mixture? I kno how to do timing, but i cant even fathom mixture on that thing :P gotta mess with the fuel dist behind the battery im assuming?
Right now I am driving an 83 GTI and it is really fast. The guy I bought it off of has a yellow GTI that does 12.29 in the 1/4 mile. Yes. He took my TD exhaust mani and a crossflow head runs 20 ish boost welded spider gears and solid steel instead of coil overs in the rear when he is on the strip. That car is stupid fast...all original CIS. I got his leftover parts on the car I drive and it is fast. I usually get about 30-32 MPG as well. I just can't wait for my TD jetta to get going though :twisted:
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I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat. :D
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected. ;)
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us :P I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! :P not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic :( my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out (http://schou.dk/hvce/). not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
do you know how to adjust mixture? I kno how to do timing, but i cant even fathom mixture on that thing :P gotta mess with the fuel dist behind the battery im assuming?
Right now I am driving an 83 GTI and it is really fast. The guy I bought it off of has a yellow GTI that does 12.29 in the 1/4 mile. Yes. He took my TD exhaust mani and a crossflow head runs 20 ish boost welded spider gears and solid steel instead of coil overs in the rear when he is on the strip. That car is stupid fast...all original CIS. I got his leftover parts on the car I drive and it is fast. I usually get about 30-32 MPG as well. I just can't wait for my TD jetta to get going though :twisted:
Well i have a 1.7 with 76 hp.. its fast for 76 hp but its not stupid fast. which i wish it was! lol but that's ok. I'm converting to the Slow Stove soon and i will have less then 50hp lol but phenomenal ECONOMY! well if i gettin 425 to a 40l tank then im oly gettin 10.6 l/100km and that translates to about 22mpg :(:(:(:( crap mileage and crap performance lol, what is wrong with the world :P
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Is your 1.7 CIS, CIS-Lamdba, or CIS-E?
If it's CIS, you adjust the mixture by turning a small screw hidden in the metering plate housing. I'll take a picture if you need one. If the mixture has never been adjusted you'll have to drill and tap out the steel plug over the screw.
CIS-Lambda and crappy economy could be the frequency valve or the oxygen sensor, more likely the latter.
CIS-E, it's probably your oxygen sensor. Replace, then adjust the mixture to get the correct DPR current.
I just bought a 2400 pound Quantum Coupe with a 1.6L gas engine. Standard CIS, but she'll do 35mpg (~6.5L/100km) combined cycle. Fast enough for me, considering my standard of comparison is a bus. :D
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well i don't have a O2 sensor so i am guessing CIS.. lol
I doubt its ever been adjusted.. but i think the problem is more likely just this vaccum leak, probably could use a tune-up.. and timing is more than likely off.
Pictures would be nice if you have them! :)
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yea vacuum problems are definitely a problem... i remember our '87 golf had mad vacuum issues and that was just in 2003. replaced a lot of hoses etc...
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Well I will be most likely keeping the 1.7 in the garage for the day i get another Mk1 :) OR MAYBE i will use it to make my go kart out of!! Lmao holy hell man, what do they have like 90 ft.lbs? that with the 4K trans and only a 6-800 lb go-kart!! YOU WOULD BE A FRIGIN ROCKET!! LOL
So I will probably replace all that good stuff when it comes time :) BUT FOR NOW I will be going to reliable simplistic diesel :)
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Streets of San Francisco 3:00 game on!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KWqY4EBWNc&feature=related
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oh HELLLLLLLLL YEAH.. I dunno, personally it looks to me that the mustang is out handling that charger like a MAN. lol
Steve McQueen is a wayy better driver imho :P The charger flops around a lot on those roads, and the mustang keeps it pretty level. Did you notice the charger nose dive ever jump? lol heavy ass thing engine alone weighs 3 ton :P
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page three of this thread looks like a kaleidoscope.
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Way to contribute Ed. loooool