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Engine Specific Info and Questions => TDI Engine -General Info => Topic started by: Incognito on February 25, 2009, 12:50:14 am
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Hey guys, hows everybody.. Well i just bought an 05 Jetta GLS TDI with 70k, and im dying to know how i can get better mpg, a little power and how to keep my first diesel on the road(maintence and what not). What do you recommend that i check with the 70k on her?. I was looking at a tuner on Parleys diesel, the PD Power tuner, is it worth the 500 big ones? and will it help or hurt my mpg with normal driving? Anything else you guys could point out to help with mpg is greatly appriciated. Oh and is anyone running different headlight bulbs? I'm thinking of installing PIAA's, worth the cash? Last thing, how do you clean the MAF on these? the torx screws are different from any ive seen. Where can i get those? I know thats alot of questions guys but im really eager to learn all i can about these cars!
Thanks to everyone who posts..
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search function is your friend,nozzles will give a good bump in mpg,though i hear they are really expensive on the pd.
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search function is your friend,nozzles will give a good bump in mpg,though i hear they are really expensive on the pd.
I got ya, but i still cant find anything on the BD power tuner. You mentioned pd, what does that stand for?
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your '05 model has a PD (pump duse - literally means pump injector) motor. there is no injection pump, and each injector 'pumps' its own fuel.
oil changes are going to be extremely critical on your car. only use the 5w40 or 10w40 synthetic oil in it.
read through this link (http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=237678) on tdiclub. it should give some insight as to how some people have managed to avoid the common problems with the PD motors.
see below how early these things can wear out! looks like the PO neglected to do an oil change, and this person now has to deal with it...
Engine: BRM
Year: 2005.5
Cam failure Y/N, miles: Y, 49200
Type of failure: severe wear
Full oil service history, type, spec, weight, and brand if you have it: Dealer serviced with 505.01(supposedly) at 8k, 18k, 35k, ?, 49k by me w/507 total quatrz
Miles on car: 49250
Mods: none performance wise
Number of starts per day, typically: 3-4
New cam Data:
When was cam replaced: in shop now(VW dealer Service dept.)
Miles on new cam: n/a
Full oil service history, type, spec, weight, and brand if you have it:
Any issues?:
Any wear?:
Any other data you find important or of interest: Bought used w/ 48k on it. If I had only talked the used car dealer into letting me pull the VC before purchase, maybe I wouldn't be in this perdicament.
Engine: BEW
Year: 2004 Build: 10/2003
Cam failure Y/N, miles: None
Type of failure: N/A
Full oil service history, type, spec, weight, and brand if you have it: bought as CPO at 28K.
36K - Elf DID 505.01
45K - Elf DID 505.01
54K - Motul 505.01
66K - M1 ESP 507 (added DG bypass kit, got RC1+ added CAT 2um fuel filter)
79K - Castrol 507
94K - M1 ESP 507
Miles on car: 94,600
Mods: RC1+, DG kit, CAT ff kit, mufflerectomy, vented wheel liner
Number of starts per day, typically: 4-8
New cam Data: None
When was cam replaced: Hasn't been
Miles on new cam:
Full oil service history, type, spec, weight, and brand if you have it:
Any issues?:
Any wear?:
Any other data you find important or of interest: I do think the DG kit, along with the CAT fuel filter will go a long way to preserving the seemingly fragile valvetrain components of our PDs, even though in my gut I feel the Delvac ESP will do even better than VAG oils while being LESS costly. I had my cam and lifters inspected a few months ago, posted pics in a thread. Not damage or wear to speak of. Pics didn't do it justice.
thats post #13 from the tdiclub. there are some good specific things in that post which you can do to prolong the life of your PD motor. such as the bypass filter kit, and CAT fuel filter. both will remove more contaminants out of both the oil, and fuel. removing contaminants out of the oil is moreso important because of the EGR system. soot contaminated oil is very abbrasive, and will wear parts much quicker than clean oil. there is a lot of pressure on the cam lobes as they fire the injector lobes. this is why there is so many problems. using the specific oils is a must!
this youtube link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HWwovyjAJE) will show you a recent posters issues with this type of motor. if your motor sounds like this, then you've got problems.
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your '05 model has a PD (pump duse - literally means pump injector) motor. there is no injection pump, and each injector 'pumps' its own fuel.
oil changes are going to be extremely critical on your car. only use the 5w40 or 10w40 synthetic oil in it.
read through this link (http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=237678) on tdiclub. it should give some insight as to how some people have managed to avoid the common problems with the PD motors.
see below how early these things can wear out! looks like the PO neglected to do an oil change, and this person now has to deal with it...
Engine: BRM
Year: 2005.5
Cam failure Y/N, miles: Y, 49200
Type of failure: severe wear
Full oil service history, type, spec, weight, and brand if you have it: Dealer serviced with 505.01(supposedly) at 8k, 18k, 35k, ?, 49k by me w/507 total quatrz
Miles on car: 49250
Mods: none performance wise
Number of starts per day, typically: 3-4
New cam Data:
When was cam replaced: in shop now(VW dealer Service dept.)
Miles on new cam: n/a
Full oil service history, type, spec, weight, and brand if you have it:
Any issues?:
Any wear?:
Any other data you find important or of interest: Bought used w/ 48k on it. If I had only talked the used car dealer into letting me pull the VC before purchase, maybe I wouldn't be in this perdicament.
Engine: BEW
Year: 2004 Build: 10/2003
Cam failure Y/N, miles: None
Type of failure: N/A
Full oil service history, type, spec, weight, and brand if you have it: bought as CPO at 28K.
36K - Elf DID 505.01
45K - Elf DID 505.01
54K - Motul 505.01
66K - M1 ESP 507 (added DG bypass kit, got RC1+ added CAT 2um fuel filter)
79K - Castrol 507
94K - M1 ESP 507
Miles on car: 94,600
Mods: RC1+, DG kit, CAT ff kit, mufflerectomy, vented wheel liner
Number of starts per day, typically: 4-8
New cam Data: None
When was cam replaced: Hasn't been
Miles on new cam:
Full oil service history, type, spec, weight, and brand if you have it:
Any issues?:
Any wear?:
Any other data you find important or of interest: I do think the DG kit, along with the CAT fuel filter will go a long way to preserving the seemingly fragile valvetrain components of our PDs, even though in my gut I feel the Delvac ESP will do even better than VAG oils while being LESS costly. I had my cam and lifters inspected a few months ago, posted pics in a thread. Not damage or wear to speak of. Pics didn't do it justice.
thats post #13 from the tdiclub. there are some good specific things in that post which you can do to prolong the life of your PD motor. such as the bypass filter kit, and CAT fuel filter. both will remove more contaminants out of both the oil, and fuel. removing contaminants out of the oil is moreso important because of the EGR system. soot contaminated oil is very abbrasive, and will wear parts much quicker than clean oil. there is a lot of pressure on the cam lobes as they fire the injector lobes. this is why there is so many problems. using the specific oils is a must!
this youtube link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HWwovyjAJE) will show you a recent posters issues with this type of motor. if your motor sounds like this, then you've got problems.
W'oh good job, i didnt know you can use regular synthetic oil, i though you had you use diesel oil. I dunno whats been done to it if anything, well i know the oil was changed but as far as fuel filters ect.. ??? It was sold from the local VW dealer, i guess i can check with them for the maintence records
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W'oh good job, i didnt know you can use regular synthetic oil, i though you had you use diesel oil. I dunno whats been done to it if anything, well i know the oil was changed but as far as fuel filters ect.. ??? It was sold from the local VW dealer, i guess i can check with them for the maintence records
You need diesel rated synthetic oil. Shell Rotella-T 5W-40 Full Synthetic is supposed to be good.
Is it 70K miles or Km? If it is miles, you are overdue for a timing belt, if Km, you are due at 96 000 Km. :)
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W'oh good job, i didnt know you can use regular synthetic oil, i though you had you use diesel oil. I dunno whats been done to it if anything, well i know the oil was changed but as far as fuel filters ect.. ??? It was sold from the local VW dealer, i guess i can check with them for the maintence records
You need diesel rated synthetic oil. Shell Rotella-T 5W-40 Full Synthetic is supposed to be good.
Is it 70K miles or Km? If it is miles, you are overdue for a timing belt, if Km, you are due at 96 000 Km. :)
aren't the PD motors rated at 100k? PD's do require special oils. using a non PD specific oil could lead to engine damage. the problem is that getting PD certified (i think its 505.01) costs quite a bit of money for all the testing. just stay away from the 507.00 5w30 oil. it will give you better MPG, but could result in quicker wear even though it is PD certified. you might want to check this additive out (http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_200_205_238_244&products_id=224). apparently its well recommended for reducing wear. and this product (http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_200_206_278_305&products_id=429) is specifically recommended for PD motors? best to check TDIclub for some more info on that one though.
i have a PD motor, and i'll probably stick to a high quality synthetic like Total (formery Elf) WITH an additive like lubromoly, and run a bypass filter.
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W'oh good job, i didnt know you can use regular synthetic oil, i though you had you use diesel oil. I dunno whats been done to it if anything, well i know the oil was changed but as far as fuel filters ect.. ??? It was sold from the local VW dealer, i guess i can check with them for the maintence records
You need diesel rated synthetic oil. Shell Rotella-T 5W-40 Full Synthetic is supposed to be good.
Is it 70K miles or Km? If it is miles, you are overdue for a timing belt, if Km, you are due at 96 000 Km. :)
Its 70 miles, i read that the 04 on up had 100,000 mile timing belts..
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D'oh! I should know better. I was going off of my ALH. The timing belt interval on it is 96 000 Km. The PD is a different beast.
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W'oh good job, i didnt know you can use regular synthetic oil, i though you had you use diesel oil. I dunno whats been done to it if anything, well i know the oil was changed but as far as fuel filters ect.. ??? It was sold from the local VW dealer, i guess i can check with them for the maintence records
You need diesel rated synthetic oil. Shell Rotella-T 5W-40 Full Synthetic is supposed to be good.
Is it 70K miles or Km? If it is miles, you are overdue for a timing belt, if Km, you are due at 96 000 Km. :)
aren't the PD motors rated at 100k? PD's do require special oils. using a non PD specific oil could lead to engine damage. the problem is that getting PD certified (i think its 505.01) costs quite a bit of money for all the testing. just stay away from the 507.00 5w30 oil. it will give you better MPG, but could result in quicker wear even though it is PD certified. you might want to check this additive out (http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_200_205_238_244&products_id=224). apparently its well recommended for reducing wear. and this product (http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_200_206_278_305&products_id=429) is specifically recommended for PD motors? best to check TDIclub for some more info on that one though.
i have a PD motor, and i'll probably stick to a high quality synthetic like Total (formery Elf) WITH an additive like lubromoly, and run a bypass filter.
Yeah i read they were 100k for the pd timing belts too.. what about the fuel filter, ive been trying to look up how to remove it but i cant find any good walkthroughs w/pics. Do i just disconnect 2 lines and take the cover off? I just looked at my cabin filter and OMG!! its strait black, im replacing it tommorrow..
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W'oh good job, i didnt know you can use regular synthetic oil, i though you had you use diesel oil. I dunno whats been done to it if anything, well i know the oil was changed but as far as fuel filters ect.. ??? It was sold from the local VW dealer, i guess i can check with them for the maintence records
You need diesel rated synthetic oil. Shell Rotella-T 5W-40 Full Synthetic is supposed to be good.
Is it 70K miles or Km? If it is miles, you are overdue for a timing belt, if Km, you are due at 96 000 Km. :)
aren't the PD motors rated at 100k? PD's do require special oils. using a non PD specific oil could lead to engine damage. the problem is that getting PD certified (i think its 505.01) costs quite a bit of money for all the testing. just stay away from the 507.00 5w30 oil. it will give you better MPG, but could result in quicker wear even though it is PD certified. you might want to check this additive out (http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_200_205_238_244&products_id=224). apparently its well recommended for reducing wear. and this product (http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_200_206_278_305&products_id=429) is specifically recommended for PD motors? best to check TDIclub for some more info on that one though.
i have a PD motor, and i'll probably stick to a high quality synthetic like Total (formery Elf) WITH an additive like lubromoly, and run a bypass filter.
Yeah i read they were 100k for the pd timing belts too.. what about the fuel filter, ive been trying to look up how to remove it but i cant find any good walkthroughs w/pics. Do i just disconnect 2 lines and take the cover off? I just looked at my cabin filter and OMG!! its strait black, im replacing it tommorrow..
i would probably replace the fuel filter anyways. a good boraparts is a good place to buy as he carries Mann filters (very good brand)
check the link below
http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=61_200_206_50
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W'oh good job, i didnt know you can use regular synthetic oil, i though you had you use diesel oil. I dunno whats been done to it if anything, well i know the oil was changed but as far as fuel filters ect.. ??? It was sold from the local VW dealer, i guess i can check with them for the maintence records
You need diesel rated synthetic oil. Shell Rotella-T 5W-40 Full Synthetic is supposed to be good.
Is it 70K miles or Km? If it is miles, you are overdue for a timing belt, if Km, you are due at 96 000 Km. :)
aren't the PD motors rated at 100k? PD's do require special oils. using a non PD specific oil could lead to engine damage. the problem is that getting PD certified (i think its 505.01) costs quite a bit of money for all the testing. just stay away from the 507.00 5w30 oil. it will give you better MPG, but could result in quicker wear even though it is PD certified. you might want to check this additive out (http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_200_205_238_244&products_id=224). apparently its well recommended for reducing wear. and this product (http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_200_206_278_305&products_id=429) is specifically recommended for PD motors? best to check TDIclub for some more info on that one though.
i have a PD motor, and i'll probably stick to a high quality synthetic like Total (formery Elf) WITH an additive like lubromoly, and run a bypass filter.
Yeah i read they were 100k for the pd timing belts too.. what about the fuel filter, ive been trying to look up how to remove it but i cant find any good walkthroughs w/pics. Do i just disconnect 2 lines and take the cover off? I just looked at my cabin filter and OMG!! its strait black, im replacing it tommorrow..
i would probably replace the fuel filter anyways. a good boraparts is a good place to buy as he carries Mann filters (very good brand)
check the link below
http://www.boraparts.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=61_200_206_50
Yeah i just bought a Wix filter and im going to install it today.. is it ok if i just pour the fuel out of the old filter into the new one? i dont really have any other way of getting fuel into the filter..
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Yeah i just bought a Wix filter and im going to install it today.. is it ok if i just pour the fuel out of the old filter into the new one? i dont really have any other way of getting fuel into the filter..
its probably best not to pour the used fuel from the old filter into the new one. if you can, get some ATF and fill it up with that instead.
when installing a new fuel filter into my jetta, i installed the filter dry. the pump has sufficient prime to pull fuel to the filter, but it will definitely run a bit rough for the first little bit until its full. maybe just pouring in a little bit of ATF will do just fine.
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Yeah i just bought a Wix filter and im going to install it today.. is it ok if i just pour the fuel out of the old filter into the new one? i dont really have any other way of getting fuel into the filter..
its probably best not to pour the used fuel from the old filter into the new one. if you can, get some ATF and fill it up with that instead.
when installing a new fuel filter into my jetta, i installed the filter dry. the pump has sufficient prime to pull fuel to the filter, but it will definitely run a bit rough for the first little bit until its full. maybe just pouring in a little bit of ATF will do just fine.
ATF meaning automatic transmisson fluid??
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ATF meaning automatic transmisson fluid??
yep :wink:
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ATF meaning automatic transmisson fluid??
yep :wink:
It can burn ATF???!!!How does that work? BTW i already installed it and it works great, i do believe it became more responsive and more peppy..According to the ass dyno anyway.. :roll:
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ATF meaning automatic transmisson fluid??
yep :wink:
It can burn ATF???!!!How does that work? BTW i already installed it and it works great, i do believe it became more responsive and more peppy..According to the ass dyno anyway.. :roll:
A diesel engine will burn ATF. ATF is a oil, diesel is a oil, so it will burn. :)
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ATF meaning automatic transmisson fluid??
yep :wink:
It can burn ATF???!!!How does that work? BTW i already installed it and it works great, i do believe it became more responsive and more peppy..According to the ass dyno anyway.. :roll:
A diesel engine will burn ATF. ATF is a oil, diesel is a oil, so it will burn. :)
Well true but i didnt know it could actually burn it. Ya know actaully get energy out of it...weird
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ATF meaning automatic transmisson fluid??
yep :wink:
It can burn ATF???!!!How does that work? BTW i already installed it and it works great, i do believe it became more responsive and more peppy..According to the ass dyno anyway.. :roll:
A diesel engine will burn ATF. ATF is a oil, diesel is a oil, so it will burn. :)
Well true but i didnt know it could actually burn it. Ya know actaully get energy out of it...weird
Yeah, it's not much different than bio-diesel or Veggie oil. It all burns. Just don't run it all the time, as I heard that it will foul the catalyst.
Heck, I'm soon to be getting a generator setup for my home that will burn diesel, Veggie oil, Bio-diesel, Waste motor oil, fuel oil, and in a pinch, kerosene. I live off grid.
Example:
(http://thewattshop.co.nz/images/6_1_2B.jpg)
Albeit, a bit more primitive than a TDI. :wink:
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ATF meaning automatic transmisson fluid??
yep :wink:
It can burn ATF???!!!How does that work? BTW i already installed it and it works great, i do believe it became more responsive and more peppy..According to the ass dyno anyway.. :roll:
A diesel engine will burn ATF. ATF is a oil, diesel is a oil, so it will burn. :)
Well true but i didnt know it could actually burn it. Ya know actaully get energy out of it...weird
Yeah, it's not much different than bio-diesel or Veggie oil. It all burns. Just don't run it all the time, as I heard that it will foul the catalyst.
Heck, I'm soon to be getting a generator setup for my home that will burn diesel, Veggie oil, Bio-diesel, Waste motor oil, fuel oil, and in a pinch, kerosene. I live off grid.
Example:
(http://thewattshop.co.nz/images/6_1_2B.jpg)
Albeit, a bit more primitive than a TDI. :wink:
Hold crap i guess so.. Good luck with that, when the Sh*t hits the fan you'll be outta reach.. :mrgreen:
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Hold crap i guess so.. Good luck with that, when the Sh*t hits the fan you'll be outta reach.. :mrgreen:
Yeah, Fortis Albeta (power co.) wants $28 000 to bring power 1 mile to my place + transformer + hookup to breaker panel. Screw 'em. :P
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Hold crap i guess so.. Good luck with that, when the Sh*t hits the fan you'll be outta reach.. :mrgreen:
Yeah, Fortis Albeta (power co.) wants $28 000 to bring power 1 mile to my place + transformer + hookup to breaker panel. Screw 'em. :P
Thats a big 10-4 :mrgreen:
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Hold crap i guess so.. Good luck with that, when the Sh*t hits the fan you'll be outta reach.. :mrgreen:
Yeah, Fortis Albeta (power co.) wants $28 000 to bring power 1 mile to my place + transformer + hookup to breaker panel. Screw 'em. :P
Thats a big 10-4 :mrgreen:
:lol: There is at least 3 people up here that have been screwed over by Fortis. :?
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Hold crap i guess so.. Good luck with that, when the Sh*t hits the fan you'll be outta reach.. :mrgreen:
Yeah, Fortis Albeta (power co.) wants $28 000 to bring power 1 mile to my place + transformer + hookup to breaker panel. Screw 'em. :P
Thats a big 10-4 :mrgreen:
:lol: There is at least 3 people up here that have been screwed over by Fortis. :?
Most of you guys in Canada Eh? lol...Sorry i had to.. :mrgreen:
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Hold crap i guess so.. Good luck with that, when the Sh*t hits the fan you'll be outta reach.. :mrgreen:
Yeah, Fortis Albeta (power co.) wants $28 000 to bring power 1 mile to my place + transformer + hookup to breaker panel. Screw 'em. :P
Thats a big 10-4 :mrgreen:
:lol: There is at least 3 people up here that have been screwed over by Fortis. :?
Most of you guys in Canada Eh? lol...Sorry i had to.. :mrgreen:
:lol: I meant in my town of less than 60 people.
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That looks like a one lung Lister.
(http://thewattshop.co.nz/images/6_1_2B.jpg)
You should talk to hill'folker. He is the generator man.
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for 28k you could get a decent solar generator system going... let alone the transformer and panel setup! :shock:
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That looks like a one lung Lister.
(http://thewattshop.co.nz/images/6_1_2B.jpg)
You should talk to hill'folker. He is the generator man.
You're close, it is a 6hp, Listeroid, which is a copy of a Lister. They are made by quite a few companies out of India.
for 28k you could get a decent solar generator system going... Shocked
No kidding! Try to tell my dad that though. (I'm 17) You would be able to build one hell of a system for that money.