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Engine Specific Info and Questions => Non VW Group Diesel => Topic started by: AudiVWguy on February 10, 2009, 07:07:46 pm
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I was thinking about this the other day, what if you took an 87 4000 with Quattro, took out the gasser and built a 5cyl Turbo Diesel motor it. I don't know much about the Audi Diesels. So what kind of horse power and torque could these motors be good for? :twisted: I heard the car weighs about 2800lbs.
You guys know anybody who's done this?
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Don´t know if anybody has done yet, but you could ask it again in a couple of months :wink:
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the 4k's are really nice cars. with quattro, it is a good platform for a rally car :twisted:
you could always install a 4 cylinder diesel engine. the 5 cylinders are good, but IMO, a 1.9TD or even 1.9TDI would be a better idea. there just isn't the same parts availability for the 5 cyl diesel engine...
over in Europe the 4k came with a 4 cylinder engine. the block should bolt right up to the trans as well, and buy the right brackets, or even just make your own.
Below is the 5 cylinder power graph:
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5994/5cylpowerlv4.jpg)
it is actually just a 1.6 motor with an extra cylinder on it.
here is the 1.6 motor:
(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/2712/comparison2jl9.jpg)
so as you can see, the power increase is almost relative to the extra cylinder. going the 1.9 route with some mods should easily beat the stock 5 cyl, but a modded 5 cyl could still do quite well. the main problem is having to buy an extra 2 head studs, valves, seals, etc. but at least the 2.4L diesel's metal head gasket will work on the 2.0TD 5 cyl engine.
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My quattro is actually 4-cylinder 1,8 carb engined. I have a good 1,6TD lying at floor, removed from ´86 fwd 80. It is pretty tempting to install the 1,6 to quattro :) I also have 5cyl 2,4TD in garage that I´d like to use. 2,5TDI would be cool too 8) But there are several differences in 4- and 5-cylinder bodies. Subframe, engine mounts, transmission, rear differential etc... 4-cyl engine does not bolt to typ81/85 5-cyl transmission. Later trannys have both bolt patterns.
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My quattro is actually 4-cylinder 1,8 carb engined. I have a good 1,6TD lying at floor, removed from ´86 fwd 80. It is pretty tempting to install the 1,6 to quattro :) I also have 5cyl 2,4TD in garage that I´d like to use. 2,5TDI would be cool too 8) But there are several differences in 4- and 5-cylinder bodies. Subframe, engine mounts, transmission, rear differential etc... 4-cyl engine does not bolt to typ81/85 5-cyl transmission. Later trannys have both bolt patterns.
ah thats good to know about the proper years that bolt up to the 4 cyl blocks. i was considering the swap on an '87 audi 4k. if it was quattro, it would have been a done deal, but i'm still lingering... holding out for a quattro version :lol:
of course adapter plates could make the swap work, but all that custom work would make it $$$$$
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Where can I find a metal Headgasket for a 5 cylinder diesel?
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Where can I find a metal Headgasket for a 5 cylinder diesel?
Canada.
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i did this conversion already, giles pump dnosd308 injectors 6,500rpm govnr mod 35lbs boost, it still to this day the fastest car i own, it even beats my volvo 760td with twin turbos, the volvo uses the 6 cylinder version of the audi turbo diesel, the 5 cylinder has some wicked power band and nothing else comes close to it.