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Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Turbinepowered on January 27, 2009, 12:14:30 pm
So. I do my taxes (I like to get on them immediately, especially since I'll be applying for financial aid this year) and I come to find out I'm getting ~2/3 of my paid out taxes back this year. Since I'm presently living without any kind of major debts ($55/month cell bill and $300 a month rent and I'm good. :D) I figure I'll be using part of this refund to pick up a welder and some other tools.

All I know is stick, and a little gas. I've no experience with MIG, and my only TIG experience has told me to get better with filler control on gas before I try that again! :lol:

They gave us a good rundown of the different companies when I took my course, but that was three years ago and things might have changed. Help me out, folks, make suggestions. Brands, models, I'm looking to you guys to get me quality.

Most of the garage circuits are 110v, but the panel itself is in the garage and adding a 220v circuit would be cake. Most of my work is going to be light grade stuff, 3/8" at most as I work on brackets. First project is going to be an AC and alternator bracket for the Fox, since I'm striking out on finding a no-AC bracket for it. Small projects are going to be more frequent than big ones, no trailer building for me in the foreseeable future, though once the Fox diesel is on the road there will be welding to build a biodiesel processor.

Budget's somewhere in the $500-750 range, but I can go up as high as a thousand I suppose. Stick is necessary, ideally with the capacity to upgrade to a moderate duty TIG rig when I finally get off my butt and learn to control that.

So how about it, folks? Steer me right, please :D
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Op-Ivy on January 27, 2009, 04:30:47 pm
I suppose this is a little off topic but... You said you are applying for financial aid this year and you are considering spending up to $1000 on a welder?
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Turbinepowered on January 27, 2009, 07:40:25 pm
Quote from: "Op-Ivy"
I suppose this is a little off topic but... You said you are applying for financial aid this year and you are considering spending up to $1000 on a welder?


My one big purchase for the year. I could save every single penny and throw it into school, to the point of not being able to afford to eat, and still not pay tuition plus bills.

I make $20k a year if I work full time 40+ per week. Tuition is now $17k per year for the nearest university.

I've been out of school and saving up to pay for books and incidental fees, but I need to get at least a good chunk of that tuition covered or I quite simply will never get to my last two and a half years of school. The tuition increases are hitting double digit percentages each year recently, which is very rapidly outstripping my ability to save up and pay for it at a later date.

Should see some of the kids already in that school. Full ride scholarships via "need based grants" and they're driving around a fresh Mercedes or Lexus paid for by their parents... I'm in a $800 VW only five years younger than I am.  :roll:
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Op-Ivy on January 27, 2009, 09:47:50 pm
Just thought I would ask.

I go here for welding questions. They are usually pretty good for helping with welding questions.

http://weldingweb.com/
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on January 28, 2009, 04:02:11 am
Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
Quote from: "Op-Ivy"
I suppose this is a little off topic but... You said you are applying for financial aid this year and you are considering spending up to $1000 on a welder?


My one big purchase for the year. I could save every single penny and throw it into school, to the point of not being able to afford to eat, and still not pay tuition plus bills.

I make $20k a year if I work full time 40+ per week. Tuition is now $17k per year for the nearest university.

I've been out of school and saving up to pay for books and incidental fees, but I need to get at least a good chunk of that tuition covered or I quite simply will never get to my last two and a half years of school. The tuition increases are hitting double digit percentages each year recently, which is very rapidly outstripping my ability to save up and pay for it at a later date.

Should see some of the kids already in that school. Full ride scholarships via "need based grants" and they're driving around a fresh Mercedes or Lexus paid for by their parents... I'm in a $800 VW only five years younger than I am.  :roll:


jesus thats insane increase.

There is a university around where i live that is re known for students getting loans from the gov't claiming they are independent and they need it to pay for school and they end up getting like a $40,000 loan and buying a new mercedez/bmw (what ever) with it and their parents are actually paying for their school... so they have like a lease sort of speak with no interest...
Title: welder buying guide
Post by: turborabbit on January 28, 2009, 03:14:11 pm
I started with stick in the 60's, coveted a "bobcat or ranger' for years 'til I discoverd the Ready Welder II.  For about $5C it can weld steel, aluminum, stainless..... Runs off car batteries (the ones in my Dodge or I carry a spare in my caddy-can change metals in less than a minute and can weld upto half-inch plate steel or three-quarter-inch aluminum. They are on the internet-by the way I installed my first one in a   cordless drill  case and I carrry it behind the passenger seat of my caddy. Needless to say-I love it!!. Good welding-warren
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: blkboostedtruck on January 28, 2009, 07:30:00 pm
I'll sell you my stick/tig for 900bucks thats cheap and it has a 100% duty cycle!
i still have that other one thats just a stick welder! 350bucks
Duane
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: commuter boy on January 28, 2009, 08:43:38 pm
Stick (ha!) with the big names.  Miller, Lincoln, etc.  Check around auction sites, sometimes you can come across real bargains these days, used is fine.

Best way to learn to tig is on someone else's dime.  Community college courses are great for that.  Or the old school european type apprenticeships like I did.  I didn't even get to touch the welder for the first six months except to clean it......
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: jackbombay on January 28, 2009, 11:04:14 pm
110v MIG with gas and a spooler gun for aluminum. Will weld up to 5/16" and is small, easily portable and easy to use. Lincoln, or Miller if you want the real cat's pajamas of welders.

  $.02
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: jtanguay on January 29, 2009, 04:18:04 am
Quote from: "Smokey Eddy"
Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
Quote from: "Op-Ivy"
I suppose this is a little off topic but... You said you are applying for financial aid this year and you are considering spending up to $1000 on a welder?


My one big purchase for the year. I could save every single penny and throw it into school, to the point of not being able to afford to eat, and still not pay tuition plus bills.

I make $20k a year if I work full time 40+ per week. Tuition is now $17k per year for the nearest university.

I've been out of school and saving up to pay for books and incidental fees, but I need to get at least a good chunk of that tuition covered or I quite simply will never get to my last two and a half years of school. The tuition increases are hitting double digit percentages each year recently, which is very rapidly outstripping my ability to save up and pay for it at a later date.

Should see some of the kids already in that school. Full ride scholarships via "need based grants" and they're driving around a fresh Mercedes or Lexus paid for by their parents... I'm in a $800 VW only five years younger than I am.  :roll:


jesus thats insane increase.

There is a university around where i live that is re known for students getting loans from the gov't claiming they are independent and they need it to pay for school and they end up getting like a $40,000 loan and buying a new mercedez/bmw (what ever) with it and their parents are actually paying for their school... so they have like a lease sort of speak with no interest...


i see my tax dollars are being put to good use  :roll:  :lol:
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: lord_verminaard on January 29, 2009, 11:36:13 am
Quote from: "Turbinepowered"

I make $20k a year if I work full time 40+ per week. Tuition is now $17k per year for the nearest university.

I've been out of school and saving up to pay for books and incidental fees, but I need to get at least a good chunk of that tuition covered or I quite simply will never get to my last two and a half years of school. The tuition increases are hitting double digit percentages each year recently, which is very rapidly outstripping my ability to save up and pay for it at a later date.


I feel your pain.  I just paid off my student loans last year, and I've been graduated for 10 years now.   :evil:

Brendan
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Turbinepowered on January 30, 2009, 01:47:28 am
Quote from: "blkboostedtruck"
I'll sell you my stick/tig for 900bucks thats cheap and it has a 100% duty cycle!
i still have that other one thats just a stick welder! 350bucks


Duane, I'd have already snatched that TIG/stick rig of yours from you if you weren't a sixteen hour drive away. :( Muy unhappy.

I've been cruising CL and the local classifieds paper lately... I'm getting distinct vibes of sketch from most of these ads. "Hot" welders, if you would...
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: blkboostedtruck on January 30, 2009, 07:55:19 am
Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
Quote from: "blkboostedtruck"
I'll sell you my stick/tig for 900bucks thats cheap and it has a 100% duty cycle!
i still have that other one thats just a stick welder! 350bucks


Duane, I'd have already snatched that TIG/stick rig of yours from you if you weren't a sixteen hour drive away. :( Muy unhappy.

I've been cruising CL and the local classifieds paper lately... I'm getting distinct vibes of sketch from most of these ads. "Hot" welders, if you would...


well the Tig/Stick welder that one could be shipped it's not as heavy as the older Stick welder i have! prolly around 40lbs compared 90lbs of that older one!

what do you mean (Hot)! stolen ?
Duane
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Turbinepowered on January 30, 2009, 08:20:59 am
Quote from: "blkboostedtruck"

well the Tig/Stick welder that one could be shipped it's not as heavy as the older Stick welder i have! prolly around 40lbs compared 90lbs of that older one!

what do you mean (Hot)! stolen ?
Duane


Hmmmm... mind looking into the shipping cost for me? I'd love to buy from another forum member, at least then I would know it hasn't been stolen! :D

And yeah, hot as in stolen. South Carolina's unemployment fund is running out due to, um, "irregularities" and a lot of folks have been on it for so long they're finally being cut off. Theft is on the rise, fairly sharply in the last month or so.
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: blkboostedtruck on January 30, 2009, 09:00:06 am
Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
Quote from: "blkboostedtruck"

well the Tig/Stick welder that one could be shipped it's not as heavy as the older Stick welder i have! prolly around 40lbs compared 90lbs of that older one!

what do you mean (Hot)! stolen ?
Duane


Hmmmm... mind looking into the shipping cost for me? I'd love to buy from another forum member, at least then I would know it hasn't been stolen! :D

And yeah, hot as in stolen. South Carolina's unemployment fund is running out due to, um, "irregularities" and a lot of folks have been on it for so long they're finally being cut off. Theft is on the rise, fairly sharply in the last month or so.


sure P.M. me your addy! I'll ship the connectors but not the cable! it's heavy!
i suggest buying cable locally! cable weighs about 120lbs and not worth shipping
Duane

i looked up it's weight and says the unit it self weighs 32lbs.
so prolly 45lbs. with total with the connectors and in box?
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Vincent Waldon on January 31, 2009, 10:04:03 pm
That's a dreamy welder.

I like how it even comes with a free booklet. :lol:
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: Turbinepowered on January 31, 2009, 10:48:23 pm
I do believe that Duane and I are coming to an agreement on his TIG/stick rig :D
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: clbanman on February 01, 2009, 05:46:25 am
These are sweet if you need portability, although they do list out of your price range:
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/tig/maxstar_150_sth/

One thing about the current economic situation, I would suspect that you would be able to do more bargaining than usual with dealers on new equipment.
Title: welders....
Post by: FineFrank on February 03, 2009, 02:58:44 pm
Whatever you buy, buy one that is supported by a local distributer. All welders need small parts, so buy on that has support.
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: blkboostedtruck on February 03, 2009, 03:26:14 pm
miller is all i buy, use, sell! i've tried all the rest! but miller is the best!
here's a pic. of the one turbinepowered is buying from me for 900bucks!
(http://www.brwelder.com/images/miller%20cst%20280%20(med).jpg)
it's smaller then my lunch box and more power full then i'll ever need!
100%duty cycle on most applications!

i still have a thunderbolt AC/DC welder for sale 350bucks looks simulare to this! but older model!(http://www.brwelder.com/shop/Images/ACFC69.jpg)
welds real nice! i used it for welding cast iron exhaust manifolds all the time!
I just don't need it because i bought this multi-process machine that stick welds/ Tig welds steel,stainless,aluminum!looks like this! pic. below!
 (http://www.brwelder.com/images/MILLER%20ECONOTIG%20PKG%20(%20MED).jpg)
and i have a 220 MIG welder! so i don't need the other 2 stick welders!
well let me know if any body wants the other stick welder?
it's a nice machine!
Duane
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: dieselherb1 on February 06, 2009, 06:46:53 am
I just bought a 220v Dual Mig from Harborfreight $188 with discount. I love it! I weld maybe 2-3 times a month but for 1-2hours at a time. I had a 110v(off brand) for 10 years, worked okay. But this one is great compared. I bought this one figuring if I don't like it they will give me my money back(30 days) but it is as good as the name brands for as often as I weld. I sell welding gases so I could get any welder at 10% over cost. But for under $200 the Dual Mig is awesome.
Title: Welder buying guide?
Post by: blkboostedtruck on February 06, 2009, 01:47:21 pm
i weld for a living! and i've tried a lot of welders! miller is far superior!
just like we don't like made in china parts for our VW's that holds a standard in everything i buy! besides we need to buy our stuff here in the states it will help our economy! i been working power plants lately and the steel that they been buying from china is junk ! it all has to be fixed or replaced! when they built miller baseball park here in milwaukee wisconsin when big blue crane fell! they had to go and change out every bolt that came from china with bolts made here in the states!
also they sent off brand welders to the job in the begining by 1/4 way through the job everyone of those welding machines mysteriously fell off the roof because they were junk! but really on purpose they fell!
there's 2 types of welds! penetration or buggers
now witch is yours?   :shock:
Duane