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Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: camboscams on January 18, 2009, 05:59:09 pm
I have a 1.6l na and in pursuit of more power, but don't plan on making the switch to Turbo quite yet. I've heard many good things about Giles' injection pump rebuilds but not quite convenced that it's worth the money. So what i'm asking is for others that have these pumps or have been around these pumps and what their impression of them was. Also how well do his tuned pumps do on a naturally aspirated diesel. Any info would be great.     Thanks Cambo
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on January 18, 2009, 06:13:46 pm
I've seen some impressive dyno differences.
20% increase sometimes. I'm sure Tyler or Giles him self will post some data sheets for you. Have you looked at his web site?
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: camboscams on January 18, 2009, 06:15:30 pm
Quote from: "Smokey Eddy"
I've seen some impressive dyno differences.
20% increase sometimes. I'm sure Tyler or Giles him self will post some data sheets for you. Have you looked at his web site?


No i havent do you have a URL? and were those improvments on a NA?
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: cyrus #1 on January 18, 2009, 06:18:35 pm
Here is the link to his site.  Tyler is running a Giles pump in an N/A application.  I think he's been happy with it.  In fact, I've yet to hear anyone say that it wasn't worth the money...

http://www.performancediesel.ca/
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: camboscams on January 18, 2009, 06:23:08 pm
If anyone has any vids of these pumps in action that would also be great info, also if you'all don't mind me asking, how much does it cost for a 1.6l IP rebuild if i supply the core?
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: burn_your_money on January 18, 2009, 06:40:53 pm
Here is my experiences with the pump install.
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14734

A performance pump for a NA is $750 CAD (presently $605.433 USD).

You can either mail us your pump and we overhaul it, or you call us with your pump number, we build one from stock and then mail it to you. You then send your old pump back to us. It does need to be in repairable condition.
Here is an example of an unacceptable core
http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=16095
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: Smokey Eddy on January 19, 2009, 12:41:58 am
And Tyler delivers  :)
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: camboscams on January 19, 2009, 04:00:35 am
Tyler, that was exactly what I needed to read. That info seals the deal, now all i'm waiting for is the engine swap :twisted:
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: burn_your_money on January 19, 2009, 04:52:05 am
Perfect. Glad I could help

I really wish my diesel was running :(
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: rallydiesel on January 19, 2009, 11:27:41 am
Wow, that's an awesome deal with the poor exchange rate these days.
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: jtanguay on January 19, 2009, 11:34:09 am
Quote from: "rallydiesel"
Wow, that's an awesome deal with the poor exchange rate these days.


consider it a special!  :roll:  :lol:
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 19, 2009, 05:58:18 pm
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
Perfect. Glad I could help

I really wish my diesel was running :(


You killed your diesel? did a packi t-bone it? they need to learn how to drive in the snow.. lmao i was in scarborough last weekend.. omg! i wanted to shoot my self!

P.s Friend of mine has one on a 83 rabbit n/a.. Night and Day
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: Dr. Diesel on January 19, 2009, 08:49:59 pm
Giles' very first crack at a performance n/a pump, 5 years ago, gained 22hp at the wheels on his delivery rabbit. 22!! No other mods. That's the same HP and more torque than the 1.7L gas rabbits.
His pumps have come a long way since then.
DEFINITELY worth the money.

This one isn't n/a, but it's a rabbit with a Giles pump in action.
2nd gear burnout with a peloquin differential.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zfY94UeBEo&feature=channel_page
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: burn_your_money on January 20, 2009, 10:44:42 am
Quote from: "8v-of-fury"


You killed your diesel? did a packi t-bone it? they need to learn how to drive in the snow.. lmao i was in scarborough last weekend.. omg! i wanted to shoot my self!

P.s Friend of mine has one on a 83 rabbit n/a.. Night and Day


It doesn't like the cold. It took about 1 minute of straight cranking to get it started in -22. The starter is crap on it so I don't mind wearing it out.

Looks like I might not have a choice though...

BOT though...
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: jtanguay on January 20, 2009, 11:27:55 am
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
Quote from: "8v-of-fury"


You killed your diesel? did a packi t-bone it? they need to learn how to drive in the snow.. lmao i was in scarborough last weekend.. omg! i wanted to shoot my self!

P.s Friend of mine has one on a 83 rabbit n/a.. Night and Day


It doesn't like the cold. It took about 1 minute of straight cranking to get it started in -22. The starter is crap on it so I don't mind wearing it out.

Looks like I might not have a choice though...

BOT though...


sounds like you need some brake parts cleaner to help starting!   :wink:
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: zagarus on January 22, 2009, 02:06:44 am
A Giles pump was the best thing I did to my 1.6TD last year.  I only got to use it for a month but man was that one of the best months ever! My first butt dyno with that thing made me giggle like a school girl.   And tomorrow i'm mailing my 1.9TD pump in to get the same treatment :D
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: camboscams on January 22, 2009, 04:05:49 am
This is all great information, Thanks So much! :D
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: Turbinepowered on January 22, 2009, 04:17:26 am
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
Here is my experiences with the pump install.
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14734

A performance pump for a NA is $750 CAD (presently $605.433 USD).


What's the going rate on a performance turbo pump?
Title: All Right Whats the Word on Giles' Pumps?
Post by: burn_your_money on January 22, 2009, 04:50:34 am
950 CAD or 753.425 USD according to xe.com

If you are going crazy on power and need a different head the price does change based on the parts and extra labour required.