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Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: Torchd on November 22, 2008, 09:08:01 am
Hey guys!

I have 210mm Act stage three race spec clutch kit but i dont have the 210mm flywheel. Would it be possible to use the 200mm flywheel? like geting it machined or sumthing?

Will i have to get it balanced?

Appreciate the help.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: jtanguay on November 22, 2008, 10:32:25 am
theoretically if you remove the same amount all the way around, it should stay balanced...
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: AudiVWguy on November 22, 2008, 11:25:55 am
What do you have done to the motor? We need more info.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: vanagonturbo on November 22, 2008, 11:36:27 am
IIRC the ACT clutch disks are 200mm. Measure it. If its 200mm then you will have no problem.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: fatmobile on November 22, 2008, 10:40:15 pm
Been awhile since I did a clutch,..
 The 210mm flywheels have 9 bolts right?
 It seems like the 200mm flywheel uses 6 bolts to hold it to the pressure plate.
 It also seems like the 200mm disc fit pretty tight in the flywheel,... close to the bolts,... a 210 clutch disc might cut the bolts.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: AdAm84 on November 23, 2008, 04:34:35 pm
could you use a 210mm flywheel on our engines?
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: vanagonturbo on November 23, 2008, 07:28:57 pm
yes. you will need a 210mm pressure plate too though. dont do it unless you are applying some serious power though.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: fatmobile on November 24, 2008, 12:23:14 am
The timing marks on some of the gasser flywheels might not be in the right place for diesels.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: zukgod1 on November 24, 2008, 07:03:42 am
Quote from: "fatmobile"
The timing marks on some of the gasser flywheels might not be in the right place for diesels.



This is true...

Yes you can use a 210mm flywheel/pressure plate combo on our engines. Several people including myself are running the 210mm combo.

I'm running a Clutchnet 8 puck ceramic disk with a SACHS Super Clutch pressure plate and a lightened flywheel.
I can slip it @ freeway speeds under heavy boost so I'll be changing it to a 6 puck set up like 53 willys is running.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: cyrus #1 on November 24, 2008, 05:46:11 pm
How does the Sachs Super pressure plate compare to the clutchnet red pressure plate?
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: zukgod1 on November 24, 2008, 06:07:27 pm
I don't think it's as good and I'll be getting The Red when its time for a replacement.

For all I know it's just paint  :x
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: EcoMod on November 24, 2008, 06:14:25 pm
Hopefully the clutchnet cover has a relocated pivot for the heat treated diaphragm. :?:
Usually that is all that is done to improve clamp force.

Have you tried a 4 puck? not as traffic friendly as the 6 tho.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: zukgod1 on November 24, 2008, 06:17:16 pm
Quote from: "EcoMod"
Hopefully the clutchnet cover has a relocated pivot for the heat treated diaphragm. :?:
Usually that is all that is done to improve clamp force.

Have you tried a 4 puck? not as traffic friendly as the 6 tho.


No I wont be trying the 4 puck, I don't believe they make it with a sprung hub.

The 6 puck will hold more then we can produce I'm betting. The 8 puck I have now does pretty dang good once it's warmed up.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: EcoMod on November 24, 2008, 07:00:25 pm
[/quote]

No I wont be trying the 4 puck, I don't believe they make it with a sprung hub.

The 6 puck will hold more then we can produce I'm betting. The 8 puck I have now does pretty dang good once it's warmed up.[/quote]

There is a 3-4 puck sprung hub....maybe not clutchnet though.  I have run so many different types of clutches over the years.....

Tried double diaphrams with stock discs, stock pressure plates with 3 pucks even was a dealer for Competition clutch and clutchmaster....I hate the stiff PPlates, they tear up thrust bearings...and my L knee
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: cyrus #1 on November 24, 2008, 07:29:27 pm
Quote from: "EcoMod"
There is a 3-4 puck sprung hub....maybe not clutchnet though.  I have run so many different types of clutches over the years.....


It looks as if clutchnet has both 3 and 4 puck sprung discs.

http://www.clutchnet.com/product.php?productid=16138&cat=0&page=1

http://www.clutchnet.com/product.php?productid=17159&cat=0&page=1

Quote from: "EcoMod"
Tried double diaphrams with stock discs, stock pressure plates with 3 pucks even was a dealer for Competition clutch and clutchmaster....I hate the stiff PPlates, they tear up thrust bearings...and my L knee


What sort of pressure plates do you prefer?  I know the 16v PP is supposed to be stiffer than the 8v but most people claim there's virtually no difference in pedal stiffness.
Title: 200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
Post by: Torchd on November 28, 2008, 08:19:47 am
I plan to do alot and i am just collecting stuff for it. I plan on having an AAZ in an MK-2 with giles pump, ported and polished head, K-24 turbo with 20 psi boost, arp studs, straight through exhaust and other usual stuff. I have an act 210mm stage three 4 puch clutch kit but i dont have the 210mm flywheel.

So would it be possible to get my flywheel turned and use with my setup?

Regards.