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General Information => General => Topic started by: TOW'D on November 18, 2008, 11:16:41 am
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Howdy Gang,
We need to get some good winter / snow tires for our '85 Golf
it has P175/70R14 on it now.
Out here in the rainy west coast we get icy frozen rain. So studs are in order for the Golf
We just installed a set of studded Hankoo winters P195/80R14 on
my wife's 245 Volvo and they sure look good.
I've always liked the tall skinny tire in the winter on acVW's and Volvos but don't have much experience with these FWD VW's and small diameter tires
175 or 185 or bigger
What do you use for winter tires?
cheers
hank
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E-bay is about the only place to find new studed tires!
i'm in a search for my self!
Duane
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories___4-NEW-175-70-14-Hankook-W409-Snow-Winter-Tires-Studded_W0QQitemZ190259912918QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQddiZ2811QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item190259912918&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1194%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
(http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/hanss3.ang.jpg)
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Up here most tire shops will sell studded tires.
I like tall and skinny, and I usually just run the Canadian Tire nordics, but I'm not sure if you can stud them
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I have those hankooks that Duane posted. Mine aren't studded but they still have a pretty mean bite. I drive up to the ski hill every weekend and do quite a few road trips over mountain passes. They haven't failed me yet! :D
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My build is for specifically ski hill driving and i have huge mud&snow tires on it. (By huge i mean a lot larger than stock haha)
I don't think mud&snow means **** all. I'll just have to wait.
They are 195/65/15's. Toyo's.
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sorry but
The tires on my Golf are P175/70 R13 not 14's
must have been wishful thinking on my part
hank
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they got them too on flea bay little cheaper !
Duane
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Do a Google search for Nokia Hakkapeliitta. They are made in Finland. They are designed to work with studs. "Buy the best and cry once"
Cheers,
-JB
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I agree, I run Nokian Hakkapeliitta studded tires and are very happy with them. They seem to outlast the blizzaks which have a softer rubber compound. Both are excellent tires.
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From the ones i've tried, the blizzaks are very good, but are soft. If you run them on dry roads a bit, they'll only last you one season. The hakkapeliitas are about the best out there that can be found easily, but can be pretty spendy. I run Gislaved Nord-Frosts, which are definitely the best i've run for traction (though a bit loud in comparison). The downside is they they are pretty tough to find in the states...you may have better luck up north.
conor
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I have the Nordics from Canadian Tire this winter and so far they're good but we haven't seen much for snow yet. I run studless but the website says you can get them studded.
They're great if you're on a budget.
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I have the Nordics from Canadian Tire this winter and so far they're good but we haven't seen much for snow yet. I run studless but the website says you can get them studded.
They're great if you're on a budget.
I used these last year as well. Good tire. I've never had anything else so I can't compare them, but they were better than my all seasons the year before. :lol:
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Most of the literature seems to point to narrower being better for winter traction than wide... think trying to skate on a snow-covered lake with snow-shoes on your feet. Narrower tires float less and dig in more.
Having said that... average conditions are important to consider... are your highways bare most of the time anyways ? Need something that grips freezing rain half the time ??
I run Yokohamas (rated for M&S) during the summer and slightly narrower Goodyear UltraGrips in the winter and the difference in grip is shocking if I don't get to the swap before the first snow. Used to run very cheap but super skinny 155s on my Caddy and that sucker could pull thru any amount of drifting snow better than my Jetta with the UltraGrips.. but no where near as good on dry or icy pavement.
My point: probably no universal best tire for the winter... it will depend on what your winters typically throw at ya !!
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Good advice
I'm getting 4 studded Hankook winters P175/70R13
$68 tire + $18 studs + $ 8 freight + tax and eco fee each
I'll mount them on spare rims and run them til spring.
I had Blizzaks on my '86 Syncro, they were nice and quiet with no studs
these new tires will make some noise but good traction is what I want.
thanks guys
hank
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they've banned studded tires here in On didn't they??? at least the southern portion... and made winter tires mandatory in Qc. i bet lots of winter tire companies are doing very well... should have bought some stock!!! :lol:
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Banned studs because of what??? ....increased highway wear???? Or do they own the body shops?!?!?
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From the Ontario Highway Traffic Act:
9. (1) No person shall operate a vehicle equipped with studded tires on a highway unless all of the following conditions are met:
1. The vehicle is operated during the period starting on October 1 and ending on April 30.
2. The permit holder of the vehicle is,
i. a resident of Northern Ontario,
ii. a corporation with a business premise in Northern Ontario, as shown by the address on the plate portion of the vehicle permit,
iii. a municipal corporation having jurisdiction and control of a highway or portion of a highway located in Northern Ontario,
iv. a road authority having jurisdiction and control of a highway or portion of a highway located in Northern Ontario,
v. a district school board in Northern Ontario,
vi. a school authority in Northern Ontario,
vii. Her Majesty the Queen in right of Ontario, or
viii. not a resident of Ontario and the vehicle is in Ontario for no longer than 30 days.
3. In the case of a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating equal to or less than 3,500 kilograms, all vehicle wheels are equipped with studded tires.
4. In the case of a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating greater than 3,500 kilograms, studded tires are either on all vehicle wheels or on only the vehicle wheels on one axle, and the vehicle is,
i. an ambulance, police vehicle or fire department vehicle,
ii. a school bus,
iii. a public utility emergency vehicle, or
iv. a road service vehicle as defined in section 133 of the Act.
5. The studs meet the specifications listed in paragraph i or ii as follows:
i. The studs,
A. are evenly embedded during tread manufacture,
B. do not protrude more than 2.0 millimetres,
C. have an aggregate object exposed surface area of 3 per cent of the tread surface area or less, and
D. have an exposed surface area variability between tires of the same size of no greater than 25 per cent.
ii. The studs,
A. are securely and safely embedded after tread manufacture in pin-holes moulded in any part of the tread other than the middle one-third,
B. are inserted in a tire that after manufacturing or remoulding has never been driven on a vehicle,
C. have only one peak per stud and no hollow part, and
D. meet the stud specifications applicable to the gross vehicle weight rating of the vehicle on which the studded tires are mounted, as set out in the Table.
TABLE: STUD SPECIFICATIONS
Note: the table didn't reproduce properly, but no steel or hollow studs are allowed for vehicles under 3500 pounds.
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Banned studs because of what??? ....increased highway wear???? Or do they own the body shops?!?!?
The law was passed a while ago, studs used to do a pile of damage to teh roads around here. Technology has changed though, the new stuff does a lot less damage. I've thought long and hard about studding up anyway.............
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I've always had good luck with green diamond tires when I could find them. This year I've got Nokian WR-G2 tires. They seem great so far but we havn't had a major dumping yet.
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(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg269/E30Tuner/100_7483.jpg)
I even used these for a track day @VIR
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg269/E30Tuner/feb08vir672.jpg)
Tires and wheels, shipped, mounted and balanced for 300.00 Discount tire
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(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg269/E30Tuner/100_7483.jpg)
I even used these for a track day @VIR
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg269/E30Tuner/feb08vir672.jpg)
Tires and wheels, shipped, mounted and balanced for 300.00 Discount tire
really those rim too? those would fit a rabbit too! you gotta link to them?
and do they have studs that can be installed at that place if one wants them?
Duane
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http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/reviewOrder.do?zc=22911&x=67&y=6
I got them last year on a special sale. Looks as if they are now $424.00 mounted, balanced, and shipped to your door. :wink:
I also had them on a old corolla that I had setup for rally, the tires made it perform awesome in the slushy, mountain roads while using the ebrake to steer...haha