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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: molgrips on November 08, 2008, 10:43:43 am

Title: Just played with my boost pressure
Post by: molgrips on November 08, 2008, 10:43:43 am
Got a gague, tried it out - couldnt' get any more than 14psi on my 1.9 aaz.  Is that normal?  I kept unscrewing the wastegate but didn't go any higher.

I've got a Rover 220D conical boost pin in there, but the stock spring.  I was worrying about wasting fuel due to the LDA going all the way down too quickly, but I notice that boost climbs up to max levels REALLY quickly, like less than a second when I put my foot down.  So surely I can only be wasting a tiny drop of fuel by having the stock spring?

I was considering stretching the spring out - making it longer would effectively increase the preload on the spring, and hence be like having a stiffer spring.  Anyone know what the dimensions of the spring are when it's in the pump?  Like, how long it is at no boost and full?
Title: Just played with my boost pressure
Post by: dillenger1 on November 08, 2008, 03:45:53 pm
did you raise the spring seat any?That will increase tension.
Title: Just played with my boost pressure
Post by: Smokey Eddy on November 09, 2008, 01:14:54 am
Shims? I don't know what it looks like but shims always increase tension on springs  :)
Title: Just played with my boost pressure
Post by: molgrips on November 09, 2008, 02:18:13 am
Well yeah, I could try the shims. I didn't look to see if there was an adjustable spring seat...

The thing is, I don't know how much to adjust it.  I could pull the pump, sit it on a bench and examine how much boost gives how much fuelling but that's a right pain :)
Title: Just played with my boost pressure
Post by: jimfoo on November 09, 2008, 08:07:01 am
The stock AAZ spring is worthless to meter fuel as a function of boost. Somewhere on the forum, I posted the results of some tests. The AAZ spring was bottomed out by 4 psi or so, the MUCH stronger Cummins spring I put in wasn't bottomed until 11-12 psi. You can't shim the AAZ spring enough to be effective as even fully compressed, it is only 1/3 as strong as the proper spring.
Title: Just played with my boost pressure
Post by: jimfoo on November 09, 2008, 08:11:55 am
I think what I did for my test was have the pin in place, but the cover off, and with the pump on a scale, I measured the force needed to bottom it out, then figured the area of the diaphragm to find what PSI I would need.
Title: Just played with my boost pressure
Post by: James8485 on November 09, 2008, 07:02:12 pm
you have prob posted it but what if you used the 1.6 TD pin and spring?
like i used that combo in my aaz and if does seem that fuel comes on too quick for it to build boost to burn it, you say a cummings spring when is that close to the 1.6?

can you shim the 1.6 sping in the aaz pump?
Title: Just played with my boost pressure
Post by: molgrips on November 10, 2008, 01:32:25 am
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it is only 1/3 as strong as the proper spring.


So I roughly want a spring of the same dimensions but 3 times the rate?  Ok, gotcha :)

The question is, how will I know if the LDA is working as it should?  It'll just mean a bit less fuel used, won't it?  Maybe a little less smoke when I hit the pedal, although I don't really see that anyway...