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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: shegel on October 22, 2008, 10:18:40 pm

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Post by: shegel on October 22, 2008, 10:18:40 pm: thinking about the possibility of puting the running gear from my golf into a 95 chevy cavelier.. any thoughts. its a pretty aerodynamic car but it weighs a lot too..dunno just in the thinking stages now
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Post by: blkboostedtruck on October 22, 2008, 10:23:47 pm: you should find some sort of mid engine light weight sports car be much funner swap!
Duane
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Post by: shegel on October 22, 2008, 10:46:10 pm: mr2?
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Post by: dillenger1 on October 23, 2008, 03:22:19 am: fiero?
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Post by: maxfax on October 23, 2008, 05:23:49 am: Saw a TD Miata somewhere out there in the vast WWW wasteland...
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Post by: arb on October 23, 2008, 06:30:32 am: Quote from: "dillenger1"
fiero?

Since the Fiero power train was an off the shelf package ( I-4) from another GM front wheel drive car, it should be easier than most. You would not have the heat caused fire hazard the v-6 versions had before they decided to stop production. Also, the plastic body would never rust out and the unibody might actually last as long as your engine if you rust proof it.
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Post by: dieselwagen on October 23, 2008, 08:21:20 am: Fiero has plenty of room, some folks in the past have done small block V8 swap.
and if you wanna take it up another level, some kit-car companies offer a complete [ re-body ] and make it into a ferrari look-alike.
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Post by: shegel on October 23, 2008, 09:58:24 am: looks liek the fiero is the perfect candidate.
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Post by: shegel on October 23, 2008, 10:02:12 am: http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/872822585.html
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Post by: arb on October 23, 2008, 10:06:30 am: I get after you pull the engine you could get $100 - $200 for it since it runs. That's what I did with the gasser I took out of my caravan for my diesel conversion.
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Post by: autoholic on October 23, 2008, 02:51:37 pm: Someday I plan on putting a diesel (probably VW, maybe Toyota if I can find one) in my 71 Toyota Hilux, it's a very small/light 2wd PU. it'll be a while till I get to that project though.

My dream swap would still be a 1.9TD in QSW. I miss my Syncro's and old Quattro's, they are all gone in this area, i know of a few sitting around here and there, but they have all seen 20+ VT winters.

I'm not a big fan of Fiero's (or cavaliers!), but a 914 would be kick ass!

Here's a pic of my Samurai, VW's swap nicly into these, it's a great swap.
I'll post some under hood pics at some point.

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t13/markp-svoimages/Sami034-1.jpg)
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Post by: maxfax on October 23, 2008, 02:57:00 pm: There is a kit available for that swap isn;t there? I seem to remeber somthing about that when looking into dropping a Cummins 4bt in a Cherokee years ago...

I'm not a big fan of the Fiero but I'd love to have my little diesel (and it's MPG's) in something rear wheel drive.. I had looked into swapping one in a Triumph TR6 but then I realized I couldn't fit in the damn thing..
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Post by: autoholic on October 23, 2008, 04:28:13 pm: Triumph would be cool, or maybe a 924? they can be found cheap, many with engine problems, and they have the trans in the rear like a 944 (I think) They're a damn cool, underappreciated car, this may be a good option!

Someone was talking about an Opel GT, this would be cool, but I think an Opel Manta is even better, another very underappreciated car (I used to have one that I autoX'sd, it was always the only one there).

There are adaptors for the suzuki 5 spd (nice and small trans, has divorced t case so it will easily work in a 2wd ap) and Toyota trans. Overall would be a pretty small package that would probably fit in a variety of vehicles. as always though, any of these swaps are alot easier said then done!
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Post by: maxfax on October 23, 2008, 04:41:31 pm: The 2 things that keep holding me back from swapping a vw diesel into somethin rwd is finding somethin rwd that is light enough, and not a total and complete rust bucket.. Still searchin for a solid Pinto or Mustang II to drop this 2.4 Benz Diesel in...

Quote from: "autoholic"
as always though, any of these swaps are alot easier said then done!

Amen to that!!!
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Post by: autoholic on October 23, 2008, 06:48:23 pm: Oh man, now I'm all worked up on 924's!, they're out there for cheap!
It appears that the engine also bolts into Audi's and looks very much like a VW. It sits at somewhat of a slant (very similar to vanagon)
The trans seems to be the same as 944, in the back connected with drive shaft!
You know, an AAZ may bolt right in to those? That would be the ultimate diesel sports car swap! Sweeeet!
What an outstanding autoX'r that would be!!!!
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Post by: autoholic on October 23, 2008, 06:55:40 pm: As usual, gear ratio's may render this swap impractical. I wonder if they have a long 5th.
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Post by: maxfax on October 23, 2008, 07:02:03 pm: I need to stop reading this thread, I'm too broke at the moment to be considering doing this kind of thing... :x
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Post by: autoholic on October 23, 2008, 07:07:55 pm: Same here, same here.... I also could never find the time even if I did have the dough.
I really like the sound of a 924 VW TD project though, that may be worth further research, may actually work out very well!!!!

I'm still in hot water with my wife too. I recently spent a big chunk of our firewood money on a set of 16" wheels for the MBZ wagon. I ended up telling her the other wheels were very worn at the lugnuts and it was very unsafe. She knows better, and is still kind of pissed about it.

I guess I can't blame her, smart huh - jepardizing my wife and young children's heat for some nice wheels? I should be ashamed of myself.
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Post by: shegel on October 23, 2008, 10:38:34 pm: know whats kinda sad too. we had a 924 car except for the motor that we got for free. we ended up selling it for 600$
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Post by: blkboostedtruck on October 23, 2008, 10:45:06 pm: Quote from: "autoholic"
Same here, same here.... I also could never find the time even if I did have the dough.
I really like the sound of a 924 VW TD project though, that may be worth further research, may actually work out very well!!!!

I'm still in hot water with my wife too. I recently spent a big chunk of our firewood money on a set of 16" wheels for the MBZ wagon. I ended up telling her the other wheels were very worn at the lugnuts and it was very unsafe. She knows better, and is still kind of pissed about it.

I guess I can't blame her, smart huh - jepardizing my wife and young children's heat for some nice wheels? I should be ashamed of myself.

you better get an axe and start choppin! i usually always find free wood!
pallet manufacturers usually have scrap wood they want to give away?
Duane
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Post by: maxfax on October 23, 2008, 10:48:09 pm: Quote from: "autoholic"

I guess I can't blame her, smart huh - jepardizing my wife and young children's heat for some nice wheels? I should be ashamed of myself.

Hey at least you'll all look cool when you go out for a car ride to get warm! And if all else fails start choppin up the furniture.. :lol:
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Post by: maxfax on October 23, 2008, 11:31:04 pm: In response to the initial question posted here... a 95 Cavalier sedan w/manual trans is about 2700 lbs The Golf is around 2200 lbs... And a MK2 Jetta I think is around 2500 lbs.. There may be some places to shave some weight off (sound dampening pads and such)

Not sure what kind of weight difference thre would be between the VW and GM drive lines...

A Fiero weighs in at about 2600 lbs but would be more fun to drive....
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Post by: redhopper35 on October 24, 2008, 07:50:04 pm: I really like the idea of an MR2. I know it's very light. The Porsche 914 has a good gear spread for the diesel but it's kinda heavy.

Red
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Post by: dino1 on October 26, 2008, 07:16:57 pm: what about a mini???
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Post by: SR Heer on October 26, 2008, 07:34:37 pm: Minis are small but built like Merc Benzs - tanks - I don't know how much they weigh in but got to be more than VWs - I would think!
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Post by: maxfax on October 27, 2008, 01:39:34 am: Mini curb weight is about 2600 lbs....

Chevy Chevette Just under 2000 lbs, Rear Wheel Drive, they're dirty cheap, and you have braggin rights to say, HEY I drive a Vette! :lol:
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Post by: autoholic on October 27, 2008, 02:07:32 pm: Speaking of diesel Chevette's, here is a classic photo of my friend in the "Vette Crane" he's hauling a Supra motor I think. Classic!
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t13/markp-svoimages/crane2.jpg)
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Post by: maxfax on October 27, 2008, 08:34:56 pm: Yet another worthy use of such a fine automobile :lol: