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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: vanbcguy on September 29, 2008, 05:38:54 pm
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Are the injector lines a dealership only item? My #2 injector line cracked today and none of the local parts places seem to even know what I'm talking about. I gotta get this replaced quick, this is my only car!
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I've seen them online on occasion at various parts websites. Used is your best bet. I would be afraid to hear what the dealer charges if they even have them still
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The dealer in Canada charges about $100 per line.
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I've gotten them for earlier models from these guys for about $13 a piece... Dunno if they have a lising for yours or not...
http://www.importpartsconnection.com/index.aspx
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Ugh... Not fun...
I haven't had much luck finding ANYTHING in terms of VW wreckers around here. There's actually a few other bits and pieces I need to find too, but I have a feeling finding a TD in the wrecker is going to be a bit of a challenge. Even better my 1994 body has a 1988ish engine in it...
importpartsconnection seems to have a good deal, but I notice that the shape of the line is a bit different from mine. I seem to remember reading somewhere before that the length of these lines is important, and that they all have to be the same... That said though, the line that broke actually was much newer than the rest of them, so it probably wasn't a matched set already...
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Seems like as long as the length and inside diameter of the lines is correct, we should be able to fab our own injector lines - stainless, maybe?
Having had one snap in half before, a stronger replacement would be nice.
Anyone know if/why this wouldn't work?
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The "bubble" flares at the ends woudl be the most difficult... Haven't found a real good tool for making these yet... You'd have to research your choice of stainless line pretty thoroughly as well. Alot of stainless stuff (lines, bolts, etc) tend to be somewhat soft.... With the pressures the injection operates at there can;t be any give in the stuff..
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i bet prothe could get the chinese knockoffs :wink:
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i bet prothe could get the chinese knockoffs :wink:
Isn't that a bit high quality for Prothe???
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You could try www.vwdieselparts.com
[email protected]
He has new lines for $19.95 ea., but he
may also have used lines for a bit cheaper.
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i bet prothe could get the chinese knockoffs :wink:
Isn't that a bit high quality for Prothe???
That's a bit harsh.
As we type away on our Chinese key boards sitting on our Chinese chairs wearing our Chinese made clothes..
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i bet prothe could get the chinese knockoffs :wink:
Isn't that a bit high quality for Prothe???
That's a bit harsh.
As we type away on our Chinese key boards sitting on our Chinese chairs wearing our Chinese made clothes..
:lol:
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i bet prothe could get the chinese knockoffs :wink:
Isn't that a bit high quality for Prothe???
That's a bit harsh.
As we type away on our Chinese key boards sitting on our Chinese chairs wearing our Chinese made clothes..
ok Dan i draw the line at my clothes the union Ironworker guy i am
i make sure they say made in usa if that even means anything these days?
but i know most of my shirts have a union tag on them! :wink:
Duane
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It's REALLY hard to find clothes around here that have a tag on them.
Wally World has it wrapped up here :(
Even at our local Farm Store that has everything good luck finding something actually made in the USA..
Or trade deficit blows!
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I'd sell you a spare set of mine (1.6) on the cheap, but shipping would probably take forever. NA or TD?
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I ended up going with the site mentioned above... Ordered a whole new set just to be on the safe side. Shipping cost more than the lines did, but all told it's about the same as going to the dealership locally and buying just one, and I'm getting all 4 "just in case"
Thanks for the offer though!
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I need new lines badly, which site is that?
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These guys:
http://www.importpartsconnection.com/
My set should be showing up over the next few days. I'll let you know if they're a good fit or not, and what the quality, etc is like.
I used 1988 for the model year - for some reason they don't have a TD listed for most other years, just an NA. Like I said, here's hoping they fit!
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Thanks for the reply. In the meantime, Vince Waldon has rescued me with a set of used lines that should work, so I think I'm OK now... Neil
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Good stuff...
I nabbed a used set as well. I'm not 100% sure these ones will fit and I now realize I need to have a spare anyhow!
Where on the shore are you?
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Up in Lynn Valley, top of Mountain Highway
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Cool beans! My buddy lives right up that way... I'm over by VGH on this side.
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Can I state the obvious ? Be sure to install all 3 clamps on the lines after you install them. I had one developed a leak once when I didn't install the 3 - 4 clamp - this allowed them to vibrate against each other and spring a leak.
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Yeah, absolutely!
It never hurts to re-state the important things - never know when someone else who hasn't read that before will stumble across the thread!
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Can I state the obvious ? Be sure to install all 3 clamps on the lines after you install them. I had one developed a leak once when I didn't install the 3 - 4 clamp - this allowed them to vibrate against each other and spring a leak.
i've never had a problem with the injector lines... and my clamps are on :wink:
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I can't believe how expensive they are! Good grief!
Prothe doesn't have em. I was told i have to use 1.9 hard lines on a 1.9 head. Where on earth am i going to find that. If hard lines for the 1.6's are hard to find where do guys get em for the aaz???
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I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) you need the 1.9 lines due to the longer injector bodies (the injector is taller, so the place where the line bolts on is higher up), and because the outlet fittings on the pump aren't the same length (either longer or shorter, not sure). Just for laughs I tried bending my broken one a little - they're THICK steel, they probably won't take well to any "adjustments" one would try to make.
The manufacturer of the lines I ordered new is Cohline. I'd imagine they make a 1.9 set given that they make 1.6 ones and they're a German company. Might try finding out who their dealers are - I wasn't able to find anyone in Canada but I only looked around so much. If you find them let us know!
BTW the new ones I ordered were $12.40 US each plus shipping. The only shipping option they had to Canada was UPS. Cheapest was about $14 but then you get hit with a $20 brokerage fee, so really $35. They have a $60 "express" shipping option that includes the brokerage fee (according to the UPS website), plus it should get them here a week sooner. 5 days of taking transit, $3.75 each way, that's $7.50 a day or $37.50 for a work week! Yeah, I went with the faster shipping...
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Wowza. I think i really hooped my self. Im planing on just swapping for an aaz head. and keeping everything else. if i do that ... from most of my reading it should be fine. The head is identical just bigger ports and the cam goes on different.
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If you keep your 1.6 pump, 1.6 injectors, and I'm guessing 1.6 pump mounting bracket (?) you're probably fine. Someone more experienced can verify though!
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Yeah other people doing that (which is what im doing) dont seem to mention hard line troubles but this thread is great for finding replacements.
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Sorry, I just read this post just now. I'm surprised no one mentioned these two websites;
http://www.busdepot.com/view.jsp?model=13&category=12&group=-1&prodgroup=-1
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=01pnim550mx2pcyg2r30r53b&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1367737@RABBIT%20PICKUP%20&year=1981&cid=22@Fuel%20%26%20Air%20System&gid=6225@Fuel%20Injector%20Line
About have the price you paid?
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Actually almost exactly the same as the price I paid, I just paid a lot for the shipping so they'd get here (hopefully) today... Ah, the joys of shipping to Canada...
The Autohausaz lines specifically say "Not for turbo diesel models" which kind of threw me off. Granted the pictures look exactly the same as the ones I found that are apparently fine for turbo cars, but I still don't know if those fit or not. Depending on the weather today I might have an answer this evening!
I've also got a used set coming too - given that this has knocked my car out for the whole week I wanted to have a spare set handy. I'll post the "new" lines beside the "old" lines once I get them, just for comparison purposes.
I had a new set of injectors on order before all this happened, they're waiting for me at the post office right now! My car is going to be so happy when I get it all back together!
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Well, my new lines came today! They're on the car now and they fit great. I decided to replace all 4 rather than mess around with the old ones - I'm not 100% sure that the Cohline ones would have played along well with the old lines I had on the car due to different routing, but they fit the car perfectly.
Here's the new #2 line from Cohline, with my old #2 line on the right. You can just see the crack on my old line...
(http://nashira.ca/Members/bhughes/vw/parts/dscf4875.jpg)
Here's the complete set:
(http://nashira.ca/Members/bhughes/vw/parts/dscf4874.jpg)