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General Information => Troubleshooting => Topic started by: zukgod1 on September 10, 2008, 02:38:37 pm

Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on September 10, 2008, 02:38:37 pm
I haven't even looked at the fuse panel yet.

After my rering my horns don't work.

Silly me, I didn't know the horns were hooked up to the rings  :?

Anyway, is there a relay for these baby's?
I'm going to have to start crawling around under there but would like a good starting place.

Neither one of the 2 are working which leads me to a fuse or relay problem.

Suggestions before I dig in?
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: BlackTieTD on September 10, 2008, 05:23:17 pm
check fuse first
if its not that then check the wiring out of the horn connector... ie: loose connector or bad wire, or the contacts on the horn button themself corroded?

i agree i dont think its the horns themselves because both stopped working same time. you can test by putting 12v to them.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: burn_your_money on September 10, 2008, 06:38:01 pm
There is a relay.

How do you know both stopped working at the same time? You might have only had 1 working and jsut assumed both were.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: fatmobile on September 10, 2008, 10:27:39 pm
On my Rabbit GTI, the horn doesn't work,... but I can hear the relay click.
 Doesn't let the jerk cutting my off know I'm there,...
  but checking the relay is about that easy.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on September 11, 2008, 11:08:17 am
Quote from: "BlackTieTD"
check fuse first
if its not that then check the wiring out of the horn connector... ie: loose connector or bad wire, or the contacts on the horn button themself corroded?

i agree i dont think its the horns themselves because both stopped working same time. you can test by putting 12v to them.



The steering wheel is out of a 99 mk3. the switches both of them are good..
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on September 11, 2008, 11:10:03 am
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
There is a relay.

How do you know both stopped working at the same time? You might have only had 1 working and jsut assumed both were.



It's easy to tell when one vs two are working. Completely different sound.
They were both working up until I tore the engine apart. There is a connection over by the batt I think, maybe I had better check that out.
I'll get under it Saturday to get it figured out. Hope it's something easy easy..
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on September 11, 2008, 11:21:55 am
Quote from: "fatmobile"
On my Rabbit GTI, the horn doesn't work,... but I can hear the relay click.
 Doesn't let the jerk cutting my off know I'm there,...
  but checking the relay is about that easy.



I'm def, seriously def..

I can't hear crap, have to take my 14 yr old son for a ride when I think I'm hearing something "funny" :(
I have hearing devices but they only help a little.

I may be able to hear it if the car was off and my head was under the dash while the button was pushed.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: burn_your_money on September 11, 2008, 08:02:41 pm
I bet your son is going to grow up and build some pretty sweet cars with all the training you are giving him.  8)

It has to be frustrating at times though.

Quote from: "zukgod1"

It's easy to tell when one vs two are working. Completely different sound.


I guess I've never had both horns working at the same time :lol:
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on September 17, 2008, 06:56:07 am
Well here is what I have discovered thus far.

The horns are plugged in as required.

The relay seems to be clicking (my def ear can hear something).

Still no horn. I cant seem to find a blown fuse though.
Next step is to run a hot wire to the horns to make sure they are still working then I guess I'll go from there.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: clbanman on September 17, 2008, 09:35:59 am
If hearing is a problem, use a test light (works best around dusk) and check various points in the circuit to determine where you lose power.  One other thing to check is the ground.  I'm not sure on VW's, but on North American cars they ground through the horn mount, and I have had similar issues several times where rust causes enough resistance that the horn no longer works.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: FoXBoXRaCiNG on September 23, 2008, 12:44:52 pm
Funny, I'm in the same boat with respect to the horns, all is in check but no horns, 12v applied and they work, no relay click though, is it a relay in the fuse panel?
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on September 23, 2008, 01:37:52 pm
ya the relay is in the fuse panel under the dash on the drivers side.

I still haven't dug into min anymore. I'm just busy as heck right now..
Have to yell and wave a finger right now.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: burn_your_money on September 23, 2008, 06:40:26 pm
I haven't had mine working for a few months now, there are a couple of times I really wish I had it though :evil:
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: TedV on September 24, 2008, 09:28:01 am
just add the bumpersticker:

Horn broke, watch for finger

 works on mine :wink:  :lol:
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on September 24, 2008, 09:38:46 am
There was twice this morning I need my damn horn...
Finger isn't loud enough.

One guy has burnt retinas though, shouldn't have pulled out in front of me.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: burn_your_money on September 24, 2008, 05:12:27 pm
lasers?  :lol:
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: jtanguay on September 24, 2008, 06:17:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2yekmisAlc&NR=1
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on September 24, 2008, 06:34:17 pm
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: jtanguay on September 25, 2008, 05:24:10 am
now don't go getting any ideas  :lol:
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on October 02, 2008, 01:13:38 pm
Got it repaired last night.

Word to the wise. Just because the relay is clicking doesn't mean there isn't a blow fuse.

I was (till last night) still running those stupid looking German fuses and there was one that was blown, sure enough it was the one for the horn.


I'm back to honking again  :D
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: FoXBoXRaCiNG on October 05, 2008, 06:02:49 pm
Which relay is it specifically for the horn...
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: blkboostedtruck on October 05, 2008, 06:07:25 pm
Quote from: "zukgod1"
Got it repaired last night.

Word to the wise. Just because the relay is clicking doesn't mean there isn't a blow fuse.

I was (till last night) still running those stupid looking German fuses and there was one that was blown, sure enough it was the one for the horn.


I'm back to honking again  :D


well Dan ! you know what they say about guys that can honk thier horn?
Duane
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: zukgod1 on October 06, 2008, 11:05:57 am
Quote from: "FoXBoXRaCiNG"
Which relay is it specifically for the horn...


It's just to the left of the GP relay if I remember correctly.

Put your fingers on the relays and push the horn button, the one that's "clicking" is the horn relay.
That's how I found mine.
Title: No damn horn!
Post by: FoXBoXRaCiNG on October 06, 2008, 04:02:04 pm
I don't have the clicking.... I'll check 'round the GP relay!