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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: saurkraut on September 04, 2008, 08:11:21 am
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I've been thinking about a CCV for a while. They keep crank case gack out of your intake.
Found this Ebay auction:
ccv3500 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=290211738721)
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This is the smallest CCV that Racor makes, and this auction is about 1/2 the price I've seen this same unit list for elseware.
I bought one for my '79.
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what is it?
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what is it?
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what is it?
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Jees, you guys post fast. I was still edting the first post cause I was intending to see how the picture turned out in 'PREVIEW" and I accidently posted it.
Its a crank case breahter filter. It takes the oil mist out of the blow by gasses and drains them back to the crank case.
Did you ever look at the tarry crap that coats the inside of your compressor. This will filter it out of the blow by gasses and send it back to the crank case.
The $120 price compaires favorably to a decent looking catch can.
There is a flange on the block right next to the vacume pump. Thats where I'll drain the gack back into the crank case.
I have a PDF data sheet. How do you post those?
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i guess for certain applications it would help but if i had that much blowby to contend with i would spend the 120 bucks on new rings.
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or is this a bigger problem with the turbo cars.
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i guess for certain applications it would help but if i had that much blowby to contend with i would spend the 120 bucks on new rings.
"Thank you mister know-it-all...."
New rings and all, there is still oil in the crank case gases, and there is blow by on every diesel on the planet.
This unit takes the gack out so you don't put it in your intercooler.
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or is this a bigger problem with the turbo cars.
Take a clean white doiley, and wipe the crank case vent side of your airfilter, then talk to me about new rings.
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I have to agree, every VW diesel I've had shows more oil blow by than I like. Even the 1.6L I blue-printed.
So, the list price was $240 ?
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Karl,
does it have a one way flow? or will it pressurize from either end ?
Duane
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Karl,
does it have a one way flow? or will it pressurize from either end ?
Duane
Its a flow through device. You connect the bottom nerple to the breather on the engine, and the top nerple to the intake. the two teeny nerples are for draining the gack back to the mud drum.
I had the Racor tech guys Email the PDF data sheet to me befor I bought it. So if some one can tell me how to post a PDF, I'll put 'er up.
I was just about to buy the Racor CCV4500 for a butt load more from another place when I found this Ebay auction. Color me happy.
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Here is a general PDF on Racor CCVs. I have the 3500 specific one on my confuser. So as soon as I can figure out how to post it, I'll get that up too.
Racor CCVs (http://www.gemo-online.de/pdf/Industrie/eng/CCV-Brochure_eng.pdf)
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FYI - FWIW I think the Mann Provent 200 is a better deal..
see links
http://www.airnowsupply.com/provent.htm
http://www.airnowsupply.com/catalogs/Provent%20Brochure.pdf
Not sure what they're asking but I think it's considerably less than the Racor. Market price on thr PV was around 140 last I checked.
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<------ puts foot in mouth.. didn't open to OP's ebay link :( :oops:
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i have soo much blow by on my engine that it pools up and runs down the n/a intake tube and is leaking on my tray thats down below it ..... i wish i new about this a while ago
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FYI - FWIW I think the Mann Provent 200 is a better deal..
see links
http://www.airnowsupply.com/provent.htm
http://www.airnowsupply.com/catalogs/Provent%20Brochure.pdf
Not sure what they're asking but I think it's considerably less than the Racor. Market price on thr PV was around 140 last I checked.
The Mann unit looks comparable. Is it avaiable in the US?
When the 7 that are left in this auction are gone, who knows where the price will go. I've seen the same unit advertised for over $200 elsewhere.
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think these could replace the pressure regulator ? the giant disc thing on the valve cover of TDs? I just cracked mine and since I planned on doing a catch can anyway, if I can get out of paying the $75 for a new regulator, I'd gladly pay a little more and get one of these.
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these should be used in all vehicles that run EGR systems. would virtually eliminate the plugged up intakes 8)
but i think in vehicles without, you would want just a wee bit of oil to lube up that top end a bit :lol:
but i've seen people just use a can with some steel wool work great... unless theres oil gushing out, it should be fine. just need to hook up a drain right back into the sump.
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I guess this is an alternative to the PCV pipe/Folgers can kluges that is OK for some folks.
I've priced purpose made 'catch cans', and they range from $40 to $200. So the Racor unit (designed specifically for diesel oil vapors) compares favorabley them, and will do a better job.
Oil mist in the IDI TD crank case gases puts a thin coating of black gack through out the intake. If you run an intercooler, that black gack will condense out there too.
My 1.6TD uses aboout 1/2 quart in 3,000 miles. When I rebuilt the turbo last winter, I found the black tarry gack in the compressor housing, and all through the intake. So yes, the IDI Turbos can bennifit from a CCV filter.
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My home made one seems to work well enough. Plus it only cost the price of welding wire as I had all the other materials sitting around my garage. Now if my turbo ever gets here, it can start working again...
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Great, I hope it continues to work well for you.
I think I'll put a clear hoze from the 'out' hoze barb on this thing, to the intake snorkle and we'll see just how clean things stay.