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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: kylebeck_34 on August 03, 2008, 08:26:39 am

Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: kylebeck_34 on August 03, 2008, 08:26:39 am: im looking for the tool to set the timing on my injector pump. does anyone know where to find it. thanks
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: foxracer1 on August 03, 2008, 09:11:09 am: Call the Parts Place (248) 373-5950 its in auburn hills michigan. They have a website but it's not always current. www.partsplaceinc.com
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: Choppercat on August 03, 2008, 09:26:11 am: Here's a few on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Audi-Jetta-Diesel-Injektion-timing-Set-New_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ004QQitemZ140253887422QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

If you already have a dial gauge:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Audi-Volvo-Diesel-Engine-Timing-Tools-Set-Tool-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247QQcategoryZ35625QQihZ001QQitemZ110275420289QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

or you don't need the lockin pin for the IP and cam lock plate:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Bosch-VE-Fuel-Injection-Pump-Adapter-Timing-Tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ022QQitemZ350075067246QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Gauge and adapter alone:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260270005637

Another complete kit:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260270005637
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: FWD.MOTION on August 04, 2008, 05:41:18 am: thanks for the link, I just ordered that one at the top of your list!

Now I can time out my pumps and make them run correctly
thanks for your help
base
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: Choppercat on August 05, 2008, 05:14:52 pm: I personnally chose that one too and is suppose to show up this week :wink:
Can't wait...
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: 79rabbit4dr on August 07, 2008, 05:29:55 pm: I got that one too, showed up really quick considering it came from Germany. Looks just like the picture. Packaged well, but he goes a little heavy on the packaging tape, was a B to open :twisted:

I'll be doing the timing belt / water pump as soon as myke gets back to me 8)
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: FWD.MOTION on August 07, 2008, 07:27:35 pm: im really interested to take the time opening this guys over the top packaging. how long did it take to arrive?

was there the extension that goes onto the ip from the dial gauge in the kit? did it come with a box for storage?
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: Choppercat on August 08, 2008, 05:02:34 am: 21 days today and still waiting but anything from anywhere takes 3 week to be delivered aroud here it seems :(
Maybe today...I'll post about the packaging.
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: Choppercat on August 08, 2008, 05:56:39 pm: Quote from: "FWD.MOTION"
im really interested to take the time opening this guys over the top packaging. how long did it take to arrive?

was there the extension that goes onto the ip from the dial gauge in the kit? did it come with a box for storage?

Came in today (21 days later) but like I said before I'm in a geographical oddity- three weeks from anywhere! :roll: Packaging was excelent and a tad heavy with tape.
And yes it has an extention rod for the IP and only a storage box for the gauge. The rest is loose hardware :cry:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/choppercat205/IMG_0273.jpg)
Title: got mine
Post by: FWD.MOTION on August 12, 2008, 04:02:19 pm: I got mine today. Package was so protected in tape an paper that its nuts. Im glad to announce that the quality of the kit is really high.

Nice time in shipping and very very very well protected!
Plus 1 for a good buy
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: beowulf on August 12, 2008, 08:41:26 pm: I bought the same kit. This will be first timing belt ever. Does anyone know of any instructions on how to assemble the three pieces for the dial indicator and adapter?
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: dieselsmoke on August 13, 2008, 10:15:28 am: I got one of these as well. How far on do you push the adapter piece onto the dial gauge?? If you push it on all the way it looks like the extension rod sticks out too far.
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: RandoM on August 25, 2008, 10:06:46 am: Sorry about the off topic, but I was wondering if this item was absolutely required to swap the IP...

I mean, i have to swap my engine and make everything work by next weekend :S

Isn't there some kind of markings i can use for "TEMPORARY" timing and make it perfect when i receive that kit ?
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: Quantum TD on August 25, 2008, 10:56:14 am: If you use the Bentley manual specs, and time it spot-on the mark on top of the injection pump and line it up to the mark on the mounting bracket, you'll end up having the pump out of whack. I usually find that when I use that mark as a reference, and then time with a dial indicator, it's usually retarded by about 30-50mm. So, the car will run, but you won't have much power and you're gonna have a rough idle at startup.
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: FWD.MOTION on August 26, 2008, 05:50:07 am: I was told that the valve clearance when you set it up without the Ip is sooo close the cars bairly running...

I can report for a fact that you will have less power and a rough idle but It will run! Probubley youd be better off just marking the belt with a perminent marker and then just count teeth on the new one!

If you have never done the timing before or never heard the car running properly then you will probubley not noticed the "sound" of a properly timed engine as appose to the ghetto timing version
good luck, If I was you I wouldnt drive the car for as long as I did without getting it tunned at a performance shop

now my pumps on the right tooth and running at 1.0 and wittout the timing tool you will not know what 1.0 is or where

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/basslyne/timingset.jpg)
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: FWD.MOTION on August 26, 2008, 06:09:07 am: Quote from: "dieselsmoke"
I got one of these as well. How far on do you push the adapter piece onto the dial gauge?? If you push it on all the way it looks like the extension rod sticks out too far.

does anyone else feel this same way about the dial extension?
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: Quantum TD on August 26, 2008, 10:33:32 am: Quote from: "FWD.MOTION"
Quote from: "dieselsmoke"
I got one of these as well. How far on do you push the adapter piece onto the dial gauge?? If you push it on all the way it looks like the extension rod sticks out too far.

does anyone else feel this same way about the dial extension?

Yes. I used mine a few times and was a bit un-happy with how far the extension rod pushed the dial's center rod out. In the end, I ground off a little bit with my grinding wheel. It's still a bit too long, but workable.

For a starter's kit, it's really nice and reasonably priced: a perfect medium between the $150 Schelley one, and the crummy-looking emiata one. But I think I'm gonna splurge and get me an OEM Matra 2066 adapter and extension. I'm not really a fan of the allen-bolt lock on this kit.
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: Duster 5.9 on September 01, 2008, 07:35:14 pm: emiata-- JUNK JUNK :x
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: zukgod1 on September 02, 2008, 08:39:04 am: Quote from: "Duster 5.9"
emiata-- JUNK JUNK :x

Hmm, are you speaking from experiance?

I have one and other than the fact that it's in inches instead of MM it works fine.
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: Duster 5.9 on September 02, 2008, 07:52:46 pm: yes i think the guage is a cheap china piece of crap. the injection pump timing pin is to loose. the threads on the exstention are way loose. the cam plate/bar i easily bent it one day. junk spend the money for those of you wanting quality.
Title: Diesel Timing Tool
Post by: arb on September 03, 2008, 05:53:03 am: Mine is in inches and has a long enough pin (about 2.5 inches) on it that I don't need an extention. I've used it many times and it works well. The mag mount I bought for it is solid and has a strong grip.