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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Wayland on July 01, 2008, 09:22:46 pm

Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: Wayland on July 01, 2008, 09:22:46 pm
Wondering if there's such a thing as a 1.9 ECO diesel? I just bought a 93 Passat 1.9 TD, and the IP has the lower part of the LDA, but the top is capped off with a flat plate, and no line to the intake manifold.  It's obviously factory, not a hack.
Title: Re: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: Vincent Waldon on July 01, 2008, 09:33:57 pm
Quote from: "Wayland"
Wondering if there's such a thing as a 1.9 ECO diesel? I just bought a 93 Passat 1.9 TD, and the IP has the lower part of the LDA, but the top is capped off with a flat plate, and no line to the intake manifold.  It's obviously factory, not a hack.


Kinda looks like this ??

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/vwaldon/AAZ_AC_idle.jpg)

That would be the ECO AAZ... I believe only on early Passats.  Got one of those pumps myself by mistake.... evidently none of the LDA guts are there under the cap.
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: Wayland on July 01, 2008, 09:38:42 pm
Thanks for posting the pic. That's the one, alright.
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: neimis on July 18, 2008, 09:27:50 pm
The non LDA (flat top) pump is the stock pump that came on my 92 Passat TD. It also has the EGR, so that means it's an ECO diesel. I thought that all the B3 diesel Passats in Canada were equipped this way.

I like my new LDA "Giles" pump, by the way. A lot.
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: Wayland on July 19, 2008, 01:36:17 pm
This seems to be the case. I just looked at another 93 Passat for sale, and it was an ECO too.
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: regcheeseman on September 10, 2008, 01:41:11 pm
My AAZ I believe to be an ECO - it has gas recirc and the tiny turbo but the pump has a LDA. the boost pin has a flat profile and there is no preload screw on the top of the LDA.

Is it an ECO? has it got the 9mm head?
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: burn_your_money on September 10, 2008, 06:30:08 pm
regcheeseman yours does not sound like an ECO.

Not all passats had EGRs, most did though.
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: regcheeseman on September 13, 2008, 02:46:29 pm
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regcheeseman yours does not sound like an ECO


drives like one though. :(

revving it just makes more noise - no real increase in speed!

600 miles on a tank though  :lol:
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: 4KTD on September 15, 2008, 06:52:42 am
I just got a pump like this.  It has a vacuum advance as well. Does anyone know if it has an 8 or 9mm plunger?
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: MJF on September 15, 2008, 07:25:45 am
You could check it from pump number. 0 460 494 xxx is 9mm and 0 460 484 xxx is 8mm.
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: 4KTD on September 15, 2008, 09:35:28 am
Well the good new is that my pump has a 9mm plunger but when I opened the LDA plate there is nothing there. I will have to replace the whole LDA to get the boost pin in there.  Does anyone know what the vacuum advance connects to (on the Passat TD)?
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: Vincent Waldon on September 15, 2008, 09:45:13 am
Quote from: "4KTD"
Well the good new is that my pump has a 9mm plunger but when I opened the LDA plate there is nothing there. I will have to replace the whole LDA to get the boost pin in there.  Does anyone know what the vacuum advance connects to (on the Passat TD)?


Its purpose is to up the idle slightly when the A/C is on... a solenoid valve driven by the Fan Control Module (iirc)  applies vacuum from a tee off the vacuum pump.  The solenoid came disconnected on mine, but I traced the schematic one day and I believe it goes back to the FCM.
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: 4KTD on September 15, 2008, 09:54:06 am
Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"
Its purpose is to up the idle slightly when the A/C is on...


So does it just increace idle or advance the timing?
Title: 1.9 "ECO" diesel?
Post by: Vincent Waldon on September 15, 2008, 09:56:59 am
Idle... it's pulling on a throttle linkage.

On the 1.6 cars that are so equipped this same linkage is tugged by the cold start handle at the second notch while a different linkage advances the timing on notch 1 and 2.