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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: shox75 on May 10, 2005, 04:27:57 pm
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this is really bad, seems I've destroyed my fuel economy, worst then it was.
Where can i get a good pump timing set?
I'd like to own one, but if htey're expensive, can anyone in BC help me out!
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this is really bad, seems I've destroyed my fuel economy, worst then it was.
Where can i get a good pump timing set?
I'd like to own one, but if htey're expensive, can anyone in BC help me out!
:?: 3/4 full or 3/4 empty :?:
All you need is a dial gauge with extension (about 3") It needs at least 5mm or 1/4 inch of travel.
Use a steel rule and feeler gauges for cam bar (and a suitable bolt if you wish) for the locking pin...
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this is really bad, seems I've destroyed my fuel economy, worst then it was.
Where can i get a good pump timing set?
I'd like to own one, but if htey're expensive, can anyone in BC help me out!
:?: 3/4 full or 3/4 empty :?:
All you need is a dial gauge with extension (about 3") It needs at least 5mm or 1/4 inch of travel.
Use a steel rule and feeler gauges for cam bar (and a suitable bolt if you wish) for the locking pin...
Umm that would be 3/4 empty. I cant think of anything im doing wrong other then pump timing. I dont have the sleeve, so i adjusted it with just a feeler guage and extension, mounted by a magnetic stand. But I dont trust it because the needle jumps around whenever i go to turn the engine!
So i want to do it properly so i can be sure that timing is correct. And if it is I donno wat else to think of.
Can rebuilt injectors be bad? I've heard of this for Mercedes 300D's, they are not recommended.
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All you need is a dial gauge with extension (about 3") It needs at least 5mm or 1/4 inch of travel.
Use a steel rule and feeler gauges for cam bar (and a suitable bolt if you wish) for the locking pin...
Mark. Can you explian what you mean and how to assemble it? eg: size of extension (dia.) and how does it screw into the end of the pump? Will any dial gauge do?
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You pretty much have to buy the proper tools. The extension threads into the timing hole on the back of the pump, and it has a screw in it to hold the gauge. The dial gauge has a very long rod on it. I bought mine off E-Bay...there's links to other sites where you can buy them floating around here.
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Thanks, Ian. Yeah...Just trying to be as miserly as Mark! thing is, I would probably only use it every x years. Seems like a lot of $$ for something that will spend 99.9999% of it's time gathering dust on my shop shelf.
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Just got mine off ebay for $55 and he threw in the pump locking as well. (look for the seller's name of prothe) It's well made and although it's not metric, I can vouch for the fact that it works as it should. I timed my 1.5 just the other day.
I had to take out my vacuum pump to screw in the indicator...not sure if that's normal or not. This is the first time I've used it.
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I agree - alot of $$ for something I probably won't use more than once in the forseeable future. Maybe somebody here could set up a loaner/rental program?
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Yeah I bought mine from prothe as well, although it came to about 100 Cdn. I figured hey, I've already got over 5 grand worth of tools so what's another 100 bucks?
On my 1.9 I didn't have to take out the vacuum pump...just the hose for the crankcase ventilation.
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Yeah I bought mine from prothe as well, although it came to about 100 Cdn. I figured hey, I've already got over 5 grand worth of tools so what's another 100 bucks?
On my 1.9 I didn't have to take out the vacuum pump...just the hose for the crankcase ventilation.
I was looking at that add too, is it worth it and is it a quality one at least.??
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Here's a picture of adaptor etc
Nope I've removed it 'cus it couldn't be seen except by me so I'll repost tomorrow or so...
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'Ucking 'Ell
Sorry guys I seem to have over done it (thank god I don't postmany pictures ) :shock:
Looks like you can see the molecular structure
:mrgreen: The thread is 8mm x 1mm
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I agree - alot of $$ for something I probably won't use more than once in the forseeable future. Maybe somebody here could set up a loaner/rental program?
This could be a big ask.
I thinks it's a great idea...But who initially buys it? Postage costs? Hire fees? Repacement if it gets lost/broken? I would love to borrow one. But I reckon there would be no volunteers to lend it out!
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Yeah I bought mine from prothe as well, although it came to about 100 Cdn.
I was looking at that add too, is it worth it and is it a quality one at least.??
The tool is good quality. It's worth it.
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is there any one who has a drawing of it? or can make one?
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FWIW, when I got mine from ebay, I showed it to one of the machinists at work and he said that a local machine shop (we're not set up to do that type of work) could produce the "holder" portion with relatively little effort.
I thought it might be worth it to make a few that were compatible with readily available US dial gauges so others could either use their existing indicators or find an indicator at a lower cost. I might still be willing to do this...
As far as renting the tools out, there was a VW place that used to rent out the "hub shark" tool for doing wheel bearings in this fashion.
I think you had to give them a credit card # as a deposit for the cost of the tool ($220 or so) and then the rental was $20 or something with the purchase of the bearings. I believe there was a time limit on the rental before they'd run your card for the cost of the tool.
While it'd be nice to be able to offer a "timing tool kit" to people with the lock pin, cam lock and dial indicator, I'm not sure how to do it without getting burned if the tool gets broken, misplaced or not returned in time. Normally, individuals aren't setup to process credit cards and I guess there's a trust issue there.
For me, I just broke down and bought some tools and borrowed others. I figure if I'm going to work on the D's, I should have the right tools to do it with. That and I'm a tool geek.
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-To rebuild pump to stock fo
-To mod it for best economy and performance alltogether?
-Costs?
-Shipping costs?
I've just about narrowed down my problem to the pump, I thinks its messed up, usually when its rebuilt they paint over all bolt heads yellow. And this is how i know it has been apart previously.
I'v corrected everything people on this forum pointed out to me, and the best milage my car comes out with is 700kms on 45L, and thats with the fuel screw backed out.
Thanks very much for all the help!
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FWIW, when I got mine from ebay, I showed it to one of the machinists at work and he said that a local machine shop (we're not set up to do that type of work) could produce the "holder" portion with relatively little effort.
I thought it might be worth it to make a few that were compatible with readily available US dial gauges so others could either use their existing indicators or find an indicator at a lower cost. I might still be willing to do this...
Could you get the machinists to make me an adapter? No problems if the price is right.
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Any reputable independent VW shop should be able to set the timing for
you for peanuts. Less than $50.
Failing that, I've got everything except the holder (the threads cracked off
on the one I had last year).
Order up one of the holders and I'll be happy to help you adjust it, I've got
all the other tools. To be honest, I don't see the need for the dial indicator,
you can get it really close by ear if you want to bring it by.
Where in the GVRD are you?