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For Sale/Looking For => Parts for Sale/Wanted => Topic started by: Helliouse on May 01, 2008, 08:10:52 am

Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on May 01, 2008, 08:10:52 am
I am looking to buy some custom built conrods, and am wondering if any one else is interested. There is an 8-10 week wait for them to be made.

Basic price right now for them is about $190 a rod. That is only if I order 4; if I can get 4-5 people to order with me I am thinking we can get them for about $150 or less, making it one hell of a deal for custom rods.
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on May 01, 2008, 09:43:51 am
AH...come on! Don't tempt me. I've got to overbore the block for the b3 mTDI build and now custom rods could be available...oye!!! That wouldn't be fair to the mk1. Should swap the motor from it into the b3 and then have the bigger motor for in the b3!

Though...I don't know if I want that much more power in the mk1.

Joe
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on May 01, 2008, 05:26:20 pm
Not want more power, did I hear you right??? :shock:

More POWER is always needed  :twisted:
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on May 01, 2008, 07:20:50 pm
Not if your power to weight ratio isn't in favor of it. Usable power is another story :)

Joe
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: shortysclimbin on May 03, 2008, 08:53:38 pm
what specifications are we talking about on the rods? :) I might be interested in a spare set...
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on May 05, 2008, 12:35:34 pm
They are goot for 30+ boost, and 8000RPM, as that is what i specified .
4340 steel billet rods heat treated etc. H-Beam.
I can confirm strength, but i would like 3-4 people to be ordering...better prices.
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: zukgod1 on May 05, 2008, 01:12:16 pm
I would love to get in on this but even @ $150 ea that's spendy.
I mean Dave was able to get 200hp out of a stock bottom end..

I'm not racing mine by any means so not to sure if it would be worth it or not.
Not that I wouldn't LOVE to have them I must admit..
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on May 06, 2008, 03:07:39 pm
Well I am trying a couple different manufactures, one is offering around $650 for 4 if I can buy ~10 sets.

Dave was running a 1.9L IDI, I am not sure if these will fit, they are for a 1.9L DI.
A 1.9L DI is diffent, the cumbustion is happening in the piston, putting more force on the connection rods
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on May 08, 2008, 04:26:40 pm
Just a note, I check out a price for new stock rods, $550-600...
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Dr. Diesel on May 08, 2008, 05:29:38 pm
i've seen two examples of north american rod companies selling chinese rods. Be wary of this! One of these rod sets failed, and the other one somehow wouldn't let one rod bolt thread out. Once it was torqued in, there was nothing that could be done to remove it!
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on June 12, 2008, 03:47:08 pm
Thanks for the heads up Dr. D.
These are all American made, the guy that is making them guarantees them for 30+PSI 7000RPM at 19:1 compression...seemed a little hurt I questioned his product!

Brad
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on June 12, 2008, 05:47:38 pm
Def. Dr. D. thanks for the heads up on that. I wonder if we have seen the "same" product (not linked to any other current thread, vendor...etc. Totally different place) and I wondered the same thing.

Brad....it stinks...but you almost have to question the origin and make of products it seems these days. Look how slated some views are regarding just simple parts that no one would normally consider going outside the "OEM" brands ...

When you go into the "aftermarket" looking for custom rods, etc. etc. With all the "mills", "factories", and CNC machines (among others) out there in the world and the CHEAP product that can be had by buying overseas and elsewhere abroad...you def have to throw caution at even the aftermarket these days.

Some gobble it up and go for the cheaper chicken ...some really want to do it right. Its good to question it and that he stands behind his product. It also makes him all the more crediable in the end of all of it. I'm glad that he discussed it with you!

Now...if only I could justify and/or find the cash for such an investment right now for the mk1's mTDI motor! Sounds like a really decent deal Hmmm....
(thinks...oh great money tree...please grow)
Joe
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on June 13, 2008, 10:36:17 am
Yes, it was good to ask.
The reason I could get these cheap is by a group buy, but alas I don't think it will happen, us TDIers just aren't willing to spend the money.

I was looking at another maker, and they did say on their site they imported some of thier rods.
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on June 13, 2008, 06:47:31 pm
I'd be a TDI'er that'd love to buy them...its more or less having the money or not vs. the other things I need to do. Therefore, I just can swing it at the moment.
Did you mention it over on TDIClub?

Joe
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on June 16, 2008, 11:11:10 am
Yup, I mentioned it over there too, and got about the same responce, "If they were $X then ya".

I will see, I need a IP before I can really get these any way, but it would be nice!
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: oldpoopie on June 25, 2008, 11:27:37 pm
Has there been any movement on this?
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on July 03, 2008, 03:49:27 pm
not really, I definitely need ~10 people to buy. I am not looking to make money on this, I am pretty much selling them for what they cost.
I am doing this just to get a set, i just don't want to pay +$700 for them. :-P
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: rallydiesel on July 03, 2008, 05:13:25 pm
So these would work on an AAZ as well as 1Z/AHU?
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: therabbittree on July 04, 2008, 07:20:06 am
30 psi is nothing the stock 1.6 holds 35 just fine same with a tdi ... ask for 60 psi specs ..what brand? what style h beam? i beam ? polished? material etc??
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on July 04, 2008, 09:13:48 pm
Here is the company:
http://www.rrconnectingrods.com/steelrods.htm

And he will guarantee it to that I am sure.
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: therabbittree on July 05, 2008, 06:36:32 am
that place looks good .. made all in usa too.. no china stuff.. mummn even spy a JD  rod in there... good to see some diesel rods being made already by them... rifle drilled would be nice too..mummn when i get teh $ tree growing again
Good fine though,
Deo
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: theman53 on July 05, 2008, 09:18:51 am
any 1.6L rods in the near future I might be interested in. I am trying to build a 1.6 TD and want it bulletproof. I will have it as a daily driver, but I would like to run some boost  :twisted: and have it last for years. Let us all know.
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on September 30, 2008, 10:31:22 am
I will be ordering a set for my self soon, please let me know if you want a set. They should work in any None PD 1.9l
12 week wait, after order.
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: zukgod1 on September 30, 2008, 11:34:29 am
Man that would be cool..
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: monomer on September 30, 2008, 06:08:51 pm
Quote from: "theman53"
any 1.6L rods in the near future I might be interested in. I am trying to build a 1.6 TD and want it bulletproof. I will have it as a daily driver, but I would like to run some boost  :twisted: and have it last for years. Let us all know.



Same boat as this guy.


Corilla quoted me at just over $800/set of 4. too much for me.



as much as I want to trust the stock rods, they LOOK flimsy
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: Helliouse on October 02, 2008, 07:56:35 am
The price is over 800 unless I get 10 ppl to order.
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: kane66 on October 02, 2008, 09:03:58 am
aren't there stronger rods already available.... I found this place the other day looking for stronger rods for the 1.6.... they don't carry them..... but the do carry rods for the 1.9.
http://www.rosten-performance.com/pages/h_beam_rods.html#tdi_engines
Title: FEELER: Group Buy, 200+ hp Rods ALH and variants
Post by: zukgod1 on October 02, 2008, 09:23:53 am
Quote from: "kane66"
aren't there stronger rods already available.... I found this place the other day looking for stronger rods for the 1.6.... they don't carry them..... but the do carry rods for the 1.9.
http://www.rosten-performance.com/pages/h_beam_rods.html#tdi_engines


Ya just build a 1.9 and use parts already available, save the heart ach.