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Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 13, 2008, 01:52:31 pm
just been down santa pod today,

took the caddy on the quater mile 8)

the crowd all stood up for my 2nd gear burn out at the start line, first ever run, golf vr6 pulls away and gets a 10 yard head start, as i spazed up the revs in first gear :oops: , then into second and i shot passed him, continued to pull away, ended up beeting him by about 50 yards :lol:

the track was wet and no one got any good times. not only did i beet a vr6 but also beet regal's 350bhp 18t mk5 golf :wink:

my set up cud of been alot better and i over reved it like crazy, i never realised till afterwards that all my torque is down low,

has anyone got any idea exactly where the power band starts and finishes? whens best to change gear on a super high boost aaz?

the quater mile is amazing, id recomend it to anyone
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: Black Smokin' Diesel on April 13, 2008, 01:58:33 pm
Any tuned engine has a different powerband. Best way to know what it looks like is on a dyno.
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 13, 2008, 02:07:48 pm
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l16/fingerbanger/n565490321_2763983_3180.jpg)

 8)  8)  8)  8)  8)

i cant afford to get it dynod, that would cost more than my whole car :cry:
 
ill just have to practice untill i get it right. im pretty sure its 3200-4400ish, but i was shifting at 6000 :shock: way too high, still did ok though

i need a better clutch, anyone know of any cheap race clutches in the UK?
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: Baselyne on April 13, 2008, 02:16:11 pm
NICE WORK BEATING A VR

YOU MAKE ME PROUD ROLLING THE 4 BANGER DIESEL

nice style
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: MJF on April 13, 2008, 11:15:26 pm
Quote from: "oldskool rich"

i cant afford to get it dynod, that would cost more than my whole car :cry:
 


How expensive dynoing is there :shock: It´s 40-50€ here.

Any times/trapspeeds :?:
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: carrizog60 on April 13, 2008, 11:59:31 pm
videos please 8)
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 14, 2008, 02:47:28 am
its about £60 to get it dynod here, which is what my whole engine cost me :lol:

poverty :roll:

my best time was 16.4 but i am so sure i cud knock more than a second off that, and if my set up was better i cud probly bring it down pretty close to the 14s + the track was clearly wet too
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: nogama3 on April 14, 2008, 05:05:09 am
mate, have you tried stealth racing in warwick, vince is a cool dude. give him a ring.
whereabouts in coventry are you?
i am from nuneaton and have an aaz in my mk3. i was due to go to santa pod but the weather forecast put me off.
what work you done to your motor then?
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: bert on April 14, 2008, 10:50:56 am
i was going to go with the mk1 golf owners club but too the weather put me off  :(
Bert
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: jtanguay on April 14, 2008, 11:17:13 am
i would say that your max torque is going to be when you can reach max boost.  so probably around 2800-3200 rpm.

max hp however will be wayyyy up there near or at redline.

Check out the 1.6 power figures.  definitely not 1.9, but should give you an idea.

(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/2712/comparison2jl9.jpg)

and congrats on beating a vr6 & 350 hp 1.8T  :shock: and the fact that you haven't put much money into that beast is even more incredible!!!  8)
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 14, 2008, 12:51:25 pm
http://s85.photobucket.com/albums/k75/Jonny_777/?action=view&current=TheDeathCaddy.flv

not a very clear video but you get the idea, ill try to get the one of me against a vr

Quote from: "nogama3"
mate, have you tried stealth racing in warwick, vince is a cool dude. give him a ring.
whereabouts in coventry are you?
i am from nuneaton and have an aaz in my mk3. i was due to go to santa pod but the weather forecast put me off.
what work you done to your motor then?


im in walsgrave.

gov mod, gtd boost pin (very modified), 11mm pump piston
garret T3 with blocked waste gate 40-50psi, tdi crank shaft, clutched alternator, electric fuel pump to feed my thirsty pump, merc nozzles. to name a few :lol: .
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: carrizog60 on April 14, 2008, 01:48:33 pm
cant see smoke... :?:
you should try on lauching on a taller gear,that was too short... :idea:
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 14, 2008, 02:02:52 pm
http://s124.photobucket.com/player.swf?refURL=/&file=http://vid124.photobucket.com/albums/p6/ally_tee101/richmincingvr6atspringfest2008.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1

here was my vr fight
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: Black Smokin' Diesel on April 14, 2008, 03:03:23 pm
Quote from: "oldskool rich"
garret T3 with blocked waste gate 40-50psi


A T3 can't push 40-50 psi. At those levels of boost the head wouldn't stick on the block for long.
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 14, 2008, 03:52:58 pm
Quote from: "Black Smokin' Diesel"
Quote from: "oldskool rich"
garret T3 with blocked waste gate 40-50psi


A T3 can't push 40-50 psi. At those levels of boost the head wouldn't stick on the block for long.


well tbh im just guessing, my gauge only goes up to 30, and it shoots off the gauge in about 2 seconds increadibly fast, the actuator is totaly disconected, it seems to be ok i dont go full thottle for more than a few seconds just to be safe. i was under the impression that the more fuel i throw in the more boost i get and theres certainly plenty of fuel.

if anyone knows how much boost im hitting with my fuel mods id be interested. i still recon around 40+
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: RabbitJockey on April 14, 2008, 05:20:30 pm
i hope you could shave a second off, my jetta used to do 16.2 with a slippy clutch, only mods being a cone filter, 25psi, 2.25 exhaust and stock cast downpipe,and obviously my fueling was turned up.  hoepfully when i get it back this will be improved.

also you probably are hitting 40psi or so,  hillfolk used to run that on his old 1.6td, and he used to run it on his tdi-m until the turbine wheel shot out the downpipe
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: jtanguay on April 14, 2008, 05:58:43 pm
Quote from: "oldskool rich"
Quote from: "Black Smokin' Diesel"
Quote from: "oldskool rich"
garret T3 with blocked waste gate 40-50psi


A T3 can't push 40-50 psi. At those levels of boost the head wouldn't stick on the block for long.


well tbh im just guessing, my gauge only goes up to 30, and it shoots off the gauge in about 2 seconds increadibly fast, the actuator is totaly disconected, it seems to be ok i dont go full thottle for more than a few seconds just to be safe. i was under the impression that the more fuel i throw in the more boost i get and theres certainly plenty of fuel.

if anyone knows how much boost im hitting with my fuel mods id be interested. i still recon around 40+


i would bet on 40 psi.  hey rich you should try setting up a hillfolk style water injection system :) post compressor wheel is recommended though  :wink: .
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: blkboostedtruck on April 14, 2008, 07:49:09 pm
Rich,
what tranny are you running in your caddy? tranny code?
Duane
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: nogama3 on April 15, 2008, 10:09:13 am
where the vid of you taking on the 1.8 turbo? wanna show my bro who has an s3 and see have smug smile drop off his face!!!
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: smiffie88 on April 15, 2008, 01:41:32 pm
Rich its ryan i will bring a decent boost guagehome from work if u wanna go out wednesday night and see what boost ur really running would be interestin i fink. letme no before 5:30 wednesday.

ryan

c u wed?
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: Tintin on April 15, 2008, 03:42:58 pm
A MK3 stock VR6 that normally make around hight 14s 15s low on the 1/4, for 145-150WHP VR6.

You have some wheel spin but I estimate you have around 120-130maxWHP ........   no smoke It's cool!!

AAZ after 4500rpm the power starts to fall, a bit better reving than 1.9TDI.
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 15, 2008, 05:10:58 pm
not sure what my tranny code is, its off a 1Z.

i admit, i did catch the vr with his pants down, but then im pretty sure i cud of done alot better than that too, 16.4 is 16valve territory, this was my first time down the strip, having spoke to a few people that race alot  aparently it will take about 20 runs to get my best time, i think i can match a vr for horse power for the first 100 yards but then i run out of puff, possibly down to my stupid small wheels. i think if i got my shifting right, sum slicks and an intercooler i cud run low 15s with a little practice

heres sum more vids,

my mate in his dads 350bhp mk5 18t
http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p6/ally_tee101/?action=view&current=Stantonfirstrun.flv


http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p6/ally_tee101/?action=view&current=Rich2ndrunspringfest2008.flv

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p6/ally_tee101/?action=view&current=richakamadmaxspringfest2008run3.flv
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 15, 2008, 05:42:31 pm
maybe im just making more excuses but it may hav been a gud idea to empty all my camping gear out before the race.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l16/fingerbanger/P120408_1520.jpg)

and maybe if i didnt get so drunk the night before :oops:
http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a62/stantonshadow/?action=view&current=MOV00192.flv

also my back wheel was so badly buckled that on the way home it pulled my axel off, i could feel the drag on the back end

http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w111/SirJackBauer/?action=view&current=V120408_1428.flv
this was only doing about 50
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: Dirtrag2 on April 15, 2008, 06:05:59 pm
yeah!  :D  empty out the camping gear, probably .5 sec shave off your time
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: theman53 on April 15, 2008, 07:36:39 pm
You are definately my kind of dude. Show up to drag race in the death squad full of stuff hungover and still do great with the old diesel...awesome.
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: jtanguay on April 16, 2008, 04:59:17 am
Quote from: "theman53"
You are definately my kind of dude. Show up to drag race in the death squad full of stuff hungover and still do great with the old diesel...awesome.


f'kin eh!!!  :twisted: that fire video is whack!!! i love it !  beating a vr6 with a loaded down truck... totally awesome!!!

instead of going intercooler i HIGHLY suggest you try water injection.  some people use those systems to water produce at the grocery store... apparently the misting nozzle is perfect for spray!  just need to find a pump somewhere.  the 50/50 windshield washer fluid is pretty cheap and should give some good gains.
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: gldgti on April 16, 2008, 06:41:21 am
that. is. awesome.

mate, i salute you.
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 17, 2008, 05:16:59 pm
Quote from: "jtanguay"
Quote from: "theman53"
You are definately my kind of dude. Show up to drag race in the death squad full of stuff hungover and still do great with the old diesel...awesome.


f'kin eh!!!  :twisted: that fire video is whack!!! i love it !  beating a vr6 with a loaded down truck... totally awesome!!!

instead of going intercooler i HIGHLY suggest you try water injection.  some people use those systems to water produce at the grocery store... apparently the misting nozzle is perfect for spray!  just need to find a pump somewhere.  the 50/50 windshield washer fluid is pretty cheap and should give some good gains.


thanx glad you guys like it

what is water injection? ive heard of it but never given any time to find out exactly what it entails. i thort it was like a charge cooler. im quite possible gona giv NOS a go, so cud definatly do with sumthin to cool things down
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: truckinwagen on April 17, 2008, 05:22:41 pm
water injection is used as a air charge cooler, as well as some other performance boosting qualities.

if you are going to use nitrous don't worry about charge cooling as the nitrous will do that just as effectively.

the reason most people ego with water instead of NO2 is that it is much cheaper to build a kit and way cheaper to refill the bottle.
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: truckinwagen on April 17, 2008, 05:23:08 pm
by the way, that is a HOT interior!
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: Possum79 on April 18, 2008, 08:19:49 am
HA i just noticed the interior too and was about to say the same thing but you beat me to it.

I liked you video of the vr6 race so i stole it and put it on my myspace if you dont mind. :lol:
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: bert on April 18, 2008, 12:14:19 pm
hey man,glad you showed the petrols how its done  :wink:  and any chance of your gearbox code off the bottom bellhousing please  8)
Bert
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: blkboostedtruck on April 18, 2008, 02:03:13 pm
Quote from: "bert"
hey man,glad you showed the petrols how its done  :wink:  and any chance of your gearbox code off the bottom bellhousing please  8)
Bert




thats what i wanted to know too Rich? look and see what your code is on your bellhousing for us!
thanks Duane
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 18, 2008, 05:43:55 pm
thanx glad you like my interior, the whole dash, doors and roof are leopard skin. since it did me so proud at the pod ive decided to chrome my whole engine, ive already sent sum stuff to get done 8)

my truck is the real deal :wink:

ill find out my tranny code tomoz, why do you want to know?
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: blkboostedtruck on April 18, 2008, 06:26:55 pm
Quote from: "oldskool rich"
thanx glad you like my interior, the whole dash, doors and roof are leopard skin. since it did me so proud at the pod ive decided to chrome my whole engine, ive already sent sum stuff to get done 8)

my truck is the real deal :wink:

ill find out my tranny code tomoz, why do you want to know?


well i noticed that vw put 367R&P on 1.9TD motor trannys and my FF tranny has 389R&P in it and it feels like a dog but crusis good on the freeway
367 were mostly used on gassers ?
i'm gonna change my tranny soon and want to do 2nd gear burn outs!
you seem to rip around pretty good?
Duane
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 18, 2008, 07:00:32 pm
i think that maybe down to my tiny wheels, i wish i cud get a gear box that 1st gear is actually worth having, i can pull off just as fast in 2nd

ill deffo check fist thing
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: truckinwagen on April 18, 2008, 07:13:22 pm
my first gear is almost useless too, and I have as big a tire as you can put on a 13 inch rim.
I would look into a new tranny, but I want to get bigger tires, which will solve the problem,

BTW, does anyone make new r&p in different sizes that fir the o2o tranny?
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: snakemaster on April 19, 2008, 05:19:37 am
Hey you have done us proud , see you have some big wheel arches  :lol: ben hit on the head with a rock then :lol:  :lol:
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 19, 2008, 07:09:51 am
i had a look at my box, hope these numbers meen more to you than me

CHD15074

then under that it says 142

 :roll:
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: bert on April 19, 2008, 08:31:44 am
CHD is a 100mm gearbox,out of a 1.9TD aaz mk3 golf i have got 2 spare boxes,im using a DFW with 90mm flanges,dont know what thats out of  :?
Bert
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 19, 2008, 09:23:38 am
i thort it was off a 1Z but i think there the same arnt they, you can change the flanges, thats what i did, now mine are 90mm
Title: drag racing at santa pod
Post by: oldskool rich on April 19, 2008, 09:53:34 am
according to atka DFW is from a Golf Variant but it also has the same part number as the CHD :?: