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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: thedeezel on April 02, 2008, 08:54:53 am
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Ok here is what I have planned for building my engine...
92' 1.6td shortblock (honed and re-ringed)
1.9td cylinder head (rebuilt)
k24 turbo and manifold (port matched)
custom tubular intake manifold
84' 1.6td IP (possibly going to GILES for a re-build)
2.5" downpipe and full 2.5" exhaust
1.9td headgasket
I am loking for good power and reliability, do you guys think this would be a good combination, if not what would you change.
I have the IP and shortblock already, working on getting the rest ordered.
Looking at having around $1800-$2000 max in the motor, to go into a $200 two door body :D
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Check your piston to wall clearance or ring end gap with a new ring, most blocks I've seen come through my shop need bored because they are so worn, and the rering thing works ok for about 10-20k miles, but they start blowing smoke again shortly thereafter
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I was planning on measuring everything and going form there, the shortblock is supposed to be a relatively low mileage engine,i am going to put a head gasket and head on it and do a compression test to evaluate it, i know it wont be a perfect test, but it will give me a decent idea of where I am starting.
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I'll try being nicer, if you try being smarter...
Very Funny! LOL
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oddly, it applies to lots of people I deal with everyday, sad really.
Mike, I have seen that you deal in parts for these things, can you send me a list of prices.
I would be looking for oversized pistons and rings, new valves (td).
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Heres my list,
http://www.thedubdoctor.com/parts_site/idiparts.html
brands I carry are all the best quality available, mostly of German origin... you need to decide what head gasket you want. Especially pay attention to the main bearings, the integrated collar type are trouble. Don't even think about not doing intermediate shaft bearings, they are a big source of low / no oil pressure.
also, If you do pistons you need the piston pin bushings.
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if you could get your hands on a T3 turbo i would go that route, if not the K24 will do. more oomph in the upper rpm range :twisted:
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there is a brand new T3 on vortex for around $400
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thats about what i'm going to do, you should get some good power out of this setup, i hope to, the only thing i would change would be to add an intercooler if ur not already.
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I am planning on a FMIC, I've heard the packaging can be hard on a MK1, but with the custom front bumper I have planned I will be able to fit one in. I am hoping for 100hp and 150 ft lbs. That is somewhere around the output of my 06 TDI Jetta, in a car that weighs a lot less. :twisted:
I was planning on a 1.9 AAZ head gasket, but I also found a place that will cut a solid copper sheet gasket, I will also be using ARP main and head studs.
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u should be able to make those numbers with out the 1.9 head no problem haha.
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So Myke_w....
What should be the ring end gap with new rings on a 1.6TD and a 1.9TD??
Check your piston to wall clearance or ring end gap with a new ring, most blocks I've seen come through my shop need bored because they are so worn, and the rering thing works ok for about 10-20k miles, but they start blowing smoke again shortly thereafter
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And what kinda numbers should i be looking at with the following setup?
1.6 turbo (MF)
1.6 TD IP (used)
1.6 GTD new nozzles.
1.9 rebuillt head
1.9 Rebuilt Block.
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you could squeeze 150hp out of that no prob. don't forget a larger downpipe to keep your egt's down.
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whaaaattt?? really?? Are you talking about my engine or the dezel's engine?? i'll be wayy too happy with thatt!!
but are you sure i'll get that kinda bhp?
Note that all components are stock including the IP....i am also adding a 3" turbo back straight exhaust. and will prolly add an intercooler later!
Do you know whcih Turbo the MF engine has?
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I would be extermely happy to get that kind of power out of the combo I have planned.
Mike, thats quite a parts list, once I have the engine torn down and measured, and can decide what machine work I will need, I will be getting my parts from you.
Mike, are the valves you have listed on your page the sodium filled TD ones or the ones for the NA motors?
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you'll need to turn up the boost and fueling to get 150 hp. it must be intercooled (nice big fmic) and a larger downpipe & exhaust is also a must. egt gauge here would be an extremely good idea to make sure you don't cook the engine. it will probably burn a lot of oil if it was burning some previously though...
but we won't talk about longetivity... :lol: :roll: although these engines can take a serious beating!!!
getting larger injectors (GTD's are a good start) will help too. my butt dyno had some good results from the ones that smog installed into some injectors i bought. :wink: good for at least a few hp gain right off the bat!
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I'm not going for all out power, this will be a daily driver for me, I will be happy with 100hp and 150 ft lbs, I drove a 80' rabbit with a 1.5na in it for 2+ yrs every day, so any more hp would be a great improvement.
I want it reliable most of all, that is why I will more than likely be getting new pistons, rings, bearings, the head completely reworked, the turbo will be rebuilt.
I'll be running a boost gauge and an EGT gauge and aftermarket oil pressure gauge as well.
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Ok, so I am trying to get my hands on a 1.9td AAZ cylinder head for my franken motor and the salvage yards I have contacted will only sell them to me after they have them rebuilt, I explain that I want to handle the rebuild and why (I want to know what parts go in and who does it), but they still wont sell it as is.
So, I am looking for another route, anyone got one laying around they want to get rid of?
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Ok, so I am trying to get my hands on a 1.9td AAZ cylinder head for my franken motor and the salvage yards I have contacted will only sell them to me after they have them rebuilt, I explain that I want to handle the rebuild and why (I want to know what parts go in and who does it), but they still wont sell it as is.
So, I am looking for another route, anyone got one laying around they want to get rid of?
black smokin diesel (i think) had one for sale for the longest time... kept lowering his price too but no grabbers. i think its gone now though.
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I have tried to keep up on checking the FS threads for one, but have not seen one in awhile. I checked at the dealer and about fell over when he told me a new head is $1200, and the valves alone are $100 a piece. :shock:
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I have tried to keep up on checking the FS threads for one, but have not seen one in awhile. I checked at the dealer and about fell over when he told me a new head is $1200, and the valves alone are $100 a piece. :shock:
www.dieselvw.com can hook you up. not sure if OEM quality, but who can afford OEM these days with fuel prices etc??? valves at $7 a piece vs $100? wtf!!! where's my bj with that set of valves? or do i need some vaseline?? :roll: