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General Information => General => Topic started by: Vincent Waldon on March 29, 2008, 05:00:41 pm
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Here's the signal from the W terminal of a diesel alternator at about 1100 RPM:
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/vwaldon/Wterm_1100RPM_distance_web.jpg)
Here's the signal from the coil of a gasser at about 800 RPM:
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/vwaldon/800RPM_1period.jpg)
Not a perfect experiment because my diesel idles quite a bit faster than my gasser, but the idea is to show that the W signal is quite different both in amplitude *and* frequency.
The gasser tach signal is approximately 26 Hz with a peak voltage of around 80V, and the diesel tach signal is about 200 Hz with a peak voltage of around 10V.
Again, not exactly the same RPM.. but you get the idea... recalibration is in order if you want a gasser tach to work in a diesel. Or, a converter circuit that does the signal division.... looks like about a "divide by 8" would be a start. Same goes if you wanted to use a generic gasser cruise control that expects to be hooked to the coil.
BTW, since the signal from the W terminal is a square wave your multimeter on the "AC Volts" setting can detect it nicely:
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/vwaldon/voltmeteronWterminal_web.jpg)
If you had a multimeter with a "frequency" scale you could measure the signal directly.
Filed under "a picture is worth a thousand words",
Vince
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oscilloscope oh my. i used to like playing with them at school, i was the only kid in my class that could get anything to come up on the screen haha, i didn't learn *** in that class, how horrible we never even got taught to use those i figured it out myself :roll: neat to see these, looks about right since a w terminal plugged into a gas tach says about 4k, and if u hit the gas it goes to 8 and then flutters all over the place haha
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so with the right resistors etc you could build an in-line converter and not have to touch the gasser tach yes???
if so what do i need??
thanks in advance :)
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Just resistors won't do the trick... you need to condition the signal *and* divide the frequency.
Or you can buy a signal converter.
Or you can recalibrate the resistors on the gasser tach.
Or you can install an optical pickup.
Or you can install a flywheel pickup.
Lotsa options... "search" is your friend in this case. :wink:
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well i've read the convert your gasser tach thread like 15 times now, my problem is i've got a motometer tach that isn't listed on there and i can't seem to apply the principle to work out the values for mine.
how would you go about making a signal converter then? as i can't find them in the uk :(
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Because the diesel signal is not an exact multiple of the signal the gasser tach is expecting there's no simple way to do this... a microprocessor is required.
Unless you can design, build, and write assembly language for microprocessors the easiest solution is probably to buy an off-the-shelf converter from people who can:
http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=128/prd128.htm
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For those of us that can write assembly language for microprocessors have you tried this already? have you come up with anything vince? :lol:
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For those of us that can write assembly language for microprocessors have you tried this already? have you come up with anything vince? :lol:
Oh look he's braggin!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Just teasing ya smoke.
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http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=128/prd128.htm
bookmarked!!!
thanks for all the wisdom Vince!
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For those of us that can write assembly language for microprocessors have you tried this already? have you come up with anything vince? :lol:
Oh look he's braggin!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Just teasing ya smoke.
Haha! Just for the benefit of the forum Dan! And you :wink: can call me Ed
bookmarked too :P
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For those of us that can write assembly language for microprocessors have you tried this already? have you come up with anything vince? :lol:
As it happens, I have the honour of having written the *only* piece of code that was not Y2K-compliant at our local hospital back in the day... thousands of pieces of complicated medical equipment and the microprocessor-controlled neonatal transport incubator I helped build was the only thing that had a confused clock on Jan 1, 2000. Good times !
'Course back then we had it tough... no fancy "1"s and "0"s like folks have today... I had to write the whole thing with only "0"s. :wink:
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Hahahahahhah!
Nicceee!!!