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Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: subsonic on March 28, 2008, 07:28:25 am
Saw this on the vortex.  Looks like a real good deal.  If I knew how to swap in a 02J I would consider it strongly.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3747042
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: jtanguay on March 28, 2008, 01:34:50 pm
how hard is it to install an 02J into a mk2?
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: subsonic on March 28, 2008, 03:18:56 pm
I saved a link I found on that exact question.  It had a detailed write-up, what parts you needed, part numbers etc... It is on my computer at home.  From what I remember, you need different motor mounts, a hydro clutch or cable operated clutch set-up.  cable operated shifter system.  A different speedo gear. etc..    I will try and find the link again.  It looks to be almost the same as a swap for a 02A.
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on March 28, 2008, 03:55:06 pm
02a 02j into a MK2 is straightforward...a matter of mounts and parts. Thats it. Mk1 is where it is more difficult. There is lots of information out there but really...its almost "bolt in"

Joe
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: RabbitJockey on March 28, 2008, 09:24:10 pm
thats for sale in york, pa, which is where i live
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: subsonic on March 28, 2008, 10:06:15 pm
Quote from: "RabbitGTDguy"
02a 02j into a MK2 is straightforward...a matter of mounts and parts. Thats it. Mk1 is where it is more difficult. There is lots of information out there but really...its almost "bolt in"

Joe


Got a run down on those parts?  I was wondering what the additional parts would run? I thought I read somewhere that the fly wheel for these was pretty expensive-dual mass?
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: jtanguay on March 29, 2008, 01:53:07 am
it has a nice tall final drive too... might be acceptable on a diesel  :D
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on March 29, 2008, 09:26:31 am
'rado or  passat style clutch/accel pedal assembly, master/slave bracket from 'rado/passat, clutch master, clutch slave, b3 or 'rado front tranny/motor mount.  Cable shift box with cables. then its the installation from there. MK2 has the holes in the firewall for mounting the bits... the biggest part of the install would be the cable shift box and removing the old linkage style setup, etc.

Flywheel isn't an issue. Any 'rado/b3 16v one will work nicely as long as it does not come from a VR6.

Joe
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: subsonic on March 29, 2008, 11:01:51 am
Is it true you can also go the route of a manual clutch cable?  I thought I read a g60 flywheel would work as well.
Have you done a swap like this before?
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on March 29, 2008, 02:32:56 pm
Quote from: "subsonic"
Is it true you can also go the route of a manual clutch cable?  I thought I read a g60 flywheel would work as well.
Have you done a swap like this before?


Yes...you can get the euro clutch cable setup for the 02a...then there are a variety of items that you do not need...

The g60 flywheel is the "rado" flywheel I was talking about....from a corrado g60. It is the same as the 16v passat flywheels as well. Common upgrade for the TDI's as well.

Yes...I have done this swap 3 times now and a auto to standard swap in my 'rado as well.

Joe
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: subsonic on March 31, 2008, 03:45:42 pm
Sent the seller a email today.  He who hesitates is lost.  He thinks he as a buyer :cry:
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: RabbitJockey on March 31, 2008, 04:33:09 pm
i plan on doing an o2j swap eventually haha, or o2a i don't care which.
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: subsonic on March 31, 2008, 07:01:38 pm
Are you the buyer he has lined up?
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: Justin on April 04, 2008, 06:50:28 am
the swap into an MK1 is pretty straight forward, Mine is a little bit of a hack job but it was pretty easy, keep your axles and get 100 mm cvs, different trans mount (or modified 5 speed ff mount in my case) different clutch and pressure plate set up, modified rear trans mount and the cable shifter box bolted in, the biggest thing is getting the clutch hardware and cable shift box for the right trans, I had a VR6 box at first and has a different pattern so I didnt have reverse.

love the cable shift over the old linkage.

later
jkeiffer
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: subsonic on April 04, 2008, 07:29:25 am
It appears that the swap into the mk1 is a bit difficult.  The mk2 should be easier.  I am hoping that someone who has done this swap in the past, or has good knowledge of it will do up a "How To" in the FAQ section.  It looks like a very good upgrade if you are going to be pushing quite a bit more HP over stock.  I will look online and see if I can get a parts list and poss. part numbers for the swap.  It will be a start.
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: Justin on April 04, 2008, 07:55:10 am
what is difficult about it? if you have the correct flywheel and pressure plate to bolt onto the crankshaft then bolt the transmission up. if you made a new side trans mount then it would need to shift to the drivers side about 2 inches to get in the MK1 mounting hole. then a different pattern on the rear trans mount (I redrilled my MK1 mount) 100 mm CV's with stock MK1 axles (I did have to separate the ball joint from the hub to get the passenger side axle in since its a little tight but does have the travel necessary to work just fine. then remove the old clutch pedal, bolt up a new hydraulic clutch pedal to the firewall (its a little tricky and the placement will be a little off but it works just fine, add a fluid resivior.

then get the shift cable box, remove all of the guards and such from underneath with the old shifter setup, cut a larger hole for the shift box to fit up in, drill some holes, add a piece of plate steel across the box to clamp it to the tunnel and bolt it in. hook up the cables and the stock shift boot goes right over the new shifter like it was meant to be.

Like I said if you have the parts then its pretty straight forward. I bought the cables, trans and pedal all from the same car so it helped a lot having all of the correct parts.

later
jkeiffer
Title: 02J Tranny with Peloquin Differential
Post by: RabbitGTDguy on April 04, 2008, 08:19:46 am
Yeap...the biggest deal honestly (and/or) the biggest difference between swapping the 02a/j style trans between an mk2 and a mk1 is the requirement to fab or buy mounts for the mk1...whereas with the mk2, its fairly bolt in as long as you get the right mounts.

DA-BRT on here and WRD USA sells the 02a mounts...or you can fab them yourself (for MK1).  I now have the plans for the most part for both of the mounts...


For MK2...its a matter of sourcing the right bits from a 02a equipped b3 or 'rado and going to town in working to do the swap. Its honestly...not that hard.


Joe