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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: carrizog60 on March 26, 2008, 01:02:48 am

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: carrizog60 on March 26, 2008, 01:02:48 am

i have a gti 8v valve cover to install but as i was looking for a pic and size of the bolts to it i read that the timing belt cover wont fit...

is this true?what should i do to make it fit?

my car is a daily so i dint have the possibility to have it stopped to check for that as for the bolts size so any help on this two would be great :arrow:

thanks

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: Baselyne on March 26, 2008, 01:16:44 pm

I cant see how you'd fit a 3 sprocket cover onto the 4 sprocket diesel

You have a injection pump in the way....I could be wrong but I know mine doesnt fit!

that's just my personal experiences
Good luck

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: jimfoo on March 26, 2008, 01:45:53 pm

Valve cover, not timing belt cover.

Title: Re: timing belt cover with diferent valve cover
Post by: Baselyne on March 26, 2008, 01:47:25 pm

Quote from: "carrizog60"

i have a gti 8v valve cover to install but as i was looking for a pic and size of the bolts to it i read that the timing belt cover wont fit...

is this true?
thanks

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: jimfoo on March 26, 2008, 01:50:35 pm

Guess I read it as GTI valve cover with Diesel timing cover. Guess we need some clarification.

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: Baselyne on March 26, 2008, 02:24:32 pm

yah I think it depends on how you read it, wheres the little comma ,?

english can be tricky with all out direct word meanings and slang.

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: carrizog60 on March 26, 2008, 02:29:47 pm

Quote from: "jimfoo"

Guess I read it as GTI valve cover with Diesel timing cover. Guess we need some clarification.

yes, i read that a gti valve cover wont go with the gtd timing belt cover.

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: Baselyne on March 26, 2008, 02:32:16 pm

heh,

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: carrizog60 on March 27, 2008, 12:40:20 am

so :idea:

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: carrizog60 on April 09, 2008, 03:03:54 pm

:arrow:  :idea:

have the cover to fit but new some guidelines...

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: carrizog60 on April 11, 2008, 02:44:36 pm

no one? :roll:

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: zukgod1 on April 11, 2008, 02:52:17 pm

Try it, there's what 8 nuts holding it on?

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: Darth Garry on April 11, 2008, 03:57:17 pm

I have a 1.6, don't know if the bolt config is different.  But, I put a G60 cover on and it fit with a little grinding to fit under the timing cover.

http://www.notinteresting.com/photoalbum/080403_Truckdoza/P1000994.JPG

Garry

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: Dirtrag2 on April 11, 2008, 04:23:36 pm

Woah Darth Garry, that looks great  :lol: plus custon intake:?:

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: stewardc on April 12, 2008, 07:57:27 am

The G60 cover fit my 1.6 with no mods at all. I did get the rubber gasket and stud conversion off eBay. The new AAZ, has no available cover so I powdercoated that.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/Truck/100_3257.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/Truck/100_6313.jpg)

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: carrizog60 on April 12, 2008, 08:37:10 am

why cant i use the studs that are in the 1.6?
is the bolts are a thing to do?

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: stewardc on April 12, 2008, 10:48:53 am

Quote from: "carrizog60"

why cant i use the studs that are in the 1.6?

You can, but the rubber gasket is an upgrade and requires a shouldered stud.

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: cyrus #1 on April 12, 2008, 12:26:37 pm

Quote from: "stewardc"

You can, but the rubber gasket is an upgrade and requires a shoulderless stud.

Fixed.  :wink:

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: Baselyne on April 12, 2008, 01:30:04 pm

both of those valve covers look great, I think I am in the market for a G60 cover if anyones selling

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: GTD. on April 12, 2008, 01:55:54 pm

Quote from: "stewardc"

The new AAZ, has no available cover so I powdercoated that.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/Truck/100_6313.jpg)

Can the G40 (PY code) be made to fit the AAZ?
(http://www.awtracksport.com/gallerys/eatonG40/eatonG40-Images/17.jpg)
(http://www.pitstopdevelopments.com/PSDcup/cupg40eng.JPG)


Back on topic, I have fitted both a polished 2.0 8v (2E code) and a G60 (PG code to my 1.6 GTD (SB code) and haven't had to modify anything other than fit the neoprene gasket kit from VW

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/A19VUU/A19VUU/Engine2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/A19VUU/A19VUU/gtdsbg60.jpg)

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: stewardc on April 12, 2008, 03:05:49 pm

Quote from: "GTD."

(http://www.awtracksport.com/gallerys/eatonG40/eatonG40-Images/17.jpg)

I  WANT   THAT !  Does anyone have a spare that they would ship to me ??? I'm sure it would fit.

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: GTD. on April 13, 2008, 11:28:14 am

Quote from: "stewardc"

Quote from: "GTD."

(http://www.awtracksport.com/gallerys/eatonG40/eatonG40-Images/17.jpg)

I  WANT   THAT !  Does anyone have a spare that they would ship to me ??? I'm sure it would fit.

probably best to search on German Ebay for "G40 Ventildeckel"
link (http://search-desc.ebay.de/search/search.dll?sofocus=unknown&sbrftog=1&dfsp=32&catref=C6&from=R10&satitle=Ventildeckel+g40&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&fts=2&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sadis=200&fpos=Postleitza&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=32%26fsoo%3D2&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=)

Unfortunately they were only fitted to the Polo G40 (1.4 supercharged engine) so aren't very common.

VW part No. 030 103 475 F

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: Turbinepowered on April 13, 2008, 12:45:23 pm

Quote from: "libbybapa"

I only count 3 spark plugs.  Are the 3-cyl engines the same length of block?

Andrew

There are four plug wires there...

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: GTD. on April 13, 2008, 01:32:56 pm

The g40 (PY) which has the rocker cover that might fit the AAZ has the same block and head casting as a 1.3 (2G) (I have one of these in my garage)
if you need any sizes/dimensions of the rocker cover  let me now and Ill measure it up (bearing in mind mine is the standard pressed steel cover)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/A19VUU/2g2e.jpg)
Above 1.3 2G petrol
Below 2.0 2E petrol

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/A19VUU/2g.jpg)
2g inside

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: MontanaGTD on April 13, 2008, 02:38:05 pm

G40 one doesnt fit! I have a G40 and a GTD and the covers very definatley dont fit!

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: stewardc on April 13, 2008, 02:40:48 pm

Quote from: "GTD."

The g40 (PY) which has the rocker cover that might fit the AAZ has the same block and head casting as a 1.3 (2G) (I have one of these in my garage)
if you need any sizes/dimensions of the rocker cover  let me now and Ill measure it up (bearing in mind mine is the standard pressed steel cover)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/A19VUU/2g2e.jpg)
Above 1.3 2G petrol
Below 2.0 2E petrol

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/A19VUU/2g.jpg)
2g inside

Send me the dimensions(email or pm). My AAZ cover hasn't been installed yet and I can compare.

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: GTD. on April 13, 2008, 03:25:50 pm

Quote from: "MontanaGTD"

G40 one doesnt fit! I have a G40 and a GTD and the covers very definatley dont fit!

but your GTD is an SB with the 8 studs along the edge his is an aaz (MK3) with the 3 in the middle?

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: stewardc on April 13, 2008, 04:24:30 pm

Yeah, a GTD is a 1.6. The AAZ is a 1.9.

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: carrizog60 on April 14, 2008, 12:02:28 am

what bolt sizes needed to the 2.0 cover?
any pics?
i dont know what you mean by shoulderness ... :oops:

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: MontanaGTD on April 14, 2008, 01:50:04 pm

What dimensions you need? between the bolts and the exterior dimensions? I have a couple of them!

Title: for those with diferent valve covers
Post by: carrizog60 on April 14, 2008, 11:59:15 pm

i can get any size i want,just need to now what to buy.
i think they are M6x30, confirm?