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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: greenbert on March 10, 2008, 06:04:22 pm

Title: biodiesel question
Post by: greenbert on March 10, 2008, 06:04:22 pm
what do I need to modify to run biodiesel in my car?
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: thedeezel on March 10, 2008, 06:11:18 pm
That all depends on the blend of bio you are running, most places I fuel up are running a small blend out of the pump 2-5% with no mods needed.

If you are talking about running b100 (100% bio), the only thing I can think of would be running synthetic fuel lines, but I am not sure about that, I know that gassers running e85 have to because ethanol eats rubber lines with time.

If I remeber correctly, you should be able to run bio with no changes, SVO, or WVO would require a secondary fueling system with fuel solenoids to switch back and forth when the car warms up and before the car is parked again.
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: greenbert on March 10, 2008, 06:13:44 pm
I would be useing b20
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: Possum79 on March 10, 2008, 06:41:05 pm
Probably nothing with a low percentage. Biofuel will eat rubber. Fuel lines, IP  seals, etc. I hear that Viton fuel line is the way to go although expensive. I also hear that poly tubing works well at a much lower cost.

I want to make my own bio and change all the rubber parts but right now at 4 bucks a gallon for diesel, where im at, and me making it at 3 bucks a gallon isnt worth it. If anyone knows a good place in CA to get Methanol CHEAP let me know.

If you went straight veg oil then you would want to do a two tank system and switch off like the post before me. Or you can get a bigger IP and bigger injectors and run it straight in one tank at not freezing b@lls temperatures(or so i hear).
Title: Re: biodiesel question
Post by: wirenut on March 11, 2008, 09:34:34 pm
Quote from: "greenbert"
what do I need to modify to run biodiesel in my car?
all you have to do is buy vition hose for the fuel system. I been running B100 in my 1983 Rabbit for a year and no problems. the car runs great but now I have to rebuit my injectior pump and have vition seal put in after that no more problem. hope this helps
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: vegfuel on March 11, 2008, 11:30:07 pm
I have my pump resealed with Viton in addition to all Viton fuel lines for running B50 and up.
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: OM617 on March 12, 2008, 12:01:15 am
Viton is a specific brand name of rubber. All modern fuel hoses will work fine with any amount of biodiesel.

Biodiesel does not need any modifications to use. WVO and SVO, besides being illegal, do require a two tank system to use and are not biodiesel.
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: burn_your_money on March 12, 2008, 05:16:43 am
Quote from: "OM617"

 WVO and SVO, besides being illegal



That depends where you live. It's perfectly legal here
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: thedeezel on March 12, 2008, 08:25:50 am
I have never heard of WVO or SVO being illegal, anywhere.

Is there a link to somewhere that lists which states (or provinces) where it is illegal?
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: Jolly1977 on March 12, 2008, 09:11:52 am
Why would it be illegal?

Ohhh wait...  I know...  Big Oil greasing the wheels of State legislation to make it illegal...
Title: biodiesel question
Post by: TedV on March 12, 2008, 09:13:49 am
Quote from: "thedeezel"
I have never heard of WVO or SVO being illegal, anywhere.

Is there a link to somewhere that lists which states (or provinces) where it is illegal?


the illegal is most likely from the state not getting their fuel tax or possibly emisions.   It's all legal until you get caught  :wink:  :lol:
Title: Ip Question re this topic
Post by: A Guy on March 12, 2008, 05:33:09 pm
I've read above. i am in the process of sending out my pump to be rebuild on my mk3 golf.  This is my commuter.  My goal w/this car is to run a secondary tank of veg.  Should I request specific seals or materials for the seals???  I'm a newbie to this and want to do it right the first time.  Thanks in advance for any help.

Out.

Greg