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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Torchd on March 04, 2008, 04:29:27 am

Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 04, 2008, 04:29:27 am
Can i use a 1.9TD block with a head, turbo and IP from a 1.6TD??


Will everything fit bolt on, without any alteration and what kinda results should i be looking for??

Has any one done this setup??

Help pleasee!??
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 04, 2008, 11:37:22 pm
So...  it cant be done???

what happens if the compression ratio will be too high??  how can i lower it?
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: saurkraut on March 05, 2008, 06:34:01 am
Quote from: "Torchd"
So...  it cant be done???

what happens if the compression ratio will be too high??  how can i lower it?


Put a 1.9 head on it.
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: jimfoo on March 05, 2008, 06:46:34 am
You could also grind the pistons down, though you'd have to figure just how much to grind. But why would you want to put on a head that doesn't flow as well?
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: RabbitJockey on March 05, 2008, 06:18:12 pm
it won't be too high theres alot of 1.9s with 1.6 heads on them running around.  hill folk has a mk2 with a 1.9 block and 1.6 head, its na tho.
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 05, 2008, 09:25:33 pm
Hmm seen!!  i wud love to put a 1.9 head on a 1.9 block but the thing is i dont have the 1.9 head...

hmmm.....  im looking to run 1.6 MF turbo with 1.6 head and 1.9 block and will run abot 25 psi boost...  so i guess thats not possible like u guys have always said..


So if i get the 1.9 head and 1.9 block...  will the 1.6 MF turbo fit bolt onto 1.9 head? and will the IP from the 1.6TD fit as well??

Please reply soon.. i need to make the decision fast as im runnin late to order the parts..

cheers!
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 06, 2008, 02:24:44 am
assuming the IP fits.....   what injectors will i be using??  1.9TD injectors?  or 1.6TD injectors??  with 1.6td pump...??
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 07, 2008, 04:07:42 am
Guysssss???


Can some one pleaseeee reply???

Vincee?

Andrew?
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: jimfoo on March 07, 2008, 05:54:34 am
If it's a 1.9, why would you want to use 1.6 injectors? However it will run with either.
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 07, 2008, 11:00:41 pm
Cuz...  the IP is from a 1.6TD... but the head and block are of a 1.9....  so im confused!
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: jimfoo on March 08, 2008, 05:51:59 am
Use the 1.9 injectors.
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: oldskool rich on March 08, 2008, 03:53:33 pm
well in my eyes the 1.6 injectors hav slacker springs so you can deliver more fuel, thats what i run although if sumone can tell me im wrong please do.

audi80s 225bhp aaz is running a 1.6 head, 1.9 block, 1.6 injectors

my mate thinks that the 1.6 head increases the gas speed and higher compression is a good thing too, aaz gasket should hold

tbh your probly best speaking to some one thats done it already
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Mexe on March 08, 2008, 04:08:11 pm
My friend is running a 1.9 block with a 1.6 head and 1.6 GTD injectors. He has had no problems with it and is running at least 22 psi if not more by now. The thing goes and as his dad says runs circles around their chipped Mk4 TDI Jetta.
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 09, 2008, 11:43:45 pm
Quote from: "Mexe"
My friend is running a 1.9 block with a 1.6 head and 1.6 GTD injectors. He has had no problems with it and is running at least 22 psi if not more by now. The thing goes and as his dad says runs circles around their chipped Mk4 TDI Jetta.


Which IP is he using????
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 09, 2008, 11:45:11 pm
Quote from: "oldskool rich"
well in my eyes the 1.6 injectors hav slacker springs so you can deliver more fuel, thats what i run although if sumone can tell me im wrong please do.

audi80s 225bhp aaz is running a 1.6 head, 1.9 block, 1.6 injectors

my mate thinks that the 1.6 head increases the gas speed and higher compression is a good thing too, aaz gasket should hold

tbh your probly best speaking to some one thats done it already


Which IP is he using????  and The audi 80 u are talking about...  hasn't that guy already done it??
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: MJF on March 10, 2008, 02:00:28 am
My head and bottom end is highly modded, so itŽs better not to compare it to stock engines. IŽm using modded 1,6 IP
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 10, 2008, 03:23:23 am
Seen...

So MJF...  You were/are using 1.9 block, 1.6 head and 1.6IP..... which brackets are you using to mount the 1.6 IP on to the 1.9 block??  as vince valdon said that 1.6 IP doesnt mount on the 1.9 block; timing belt cant be aligned....

so what have u done??  as i wana use a 1.9 block with 1.6 IP... and im still think about which head to use..  either the 1.6 or the 1.9 head.
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: MJF on March 10, 2008, 03:44:26 am
1,6 pump brackets, will bolt to 1,9 block. Use 1,9 head.
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 10, 2008, 11:01:07 pm
Thanks MJF..


so you mean i can use the following setup without any alteration??

1.9 block
1.9 head
1.6 turbo
1.6 TD IP (using 1.6 brackets on 1.9 block)
1.6 TD injectors

and which timing belt and timing belt adjuster am i suppose to use?

Please confirm.

Thanks again!
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: MJF on March 11, 2008, 05:52:15 am
YouŽll need early 1,9 injector lines, becouse of shorter 1,6 injectors. Some early (or ecos?) 1,9 had short injectors too. I like to use manual adjuster from 1,6 and early 1,9 and youŽll need 1,9 belt.
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 11, 2008, 10:32:10 pm
So i use the 1.9 timing belt...

"I like to use manual adjuster from 1,6 and early 1,9"  What are manual adjusters??....

Thanx for the rest... but didnt get this one?!
Title: 1.9 block with 1.6 head???
Post by: Torchd on March 13, 2008, 01:42:26 am
MJF...

waiting for your response!?