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General Information => General => Topic started by: merc644 on February 12, 2008, 11:31:26 am

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Post by: merc644 on February 12, 2008, 11:31:26 am
$122.04 to r&r glow plugs on a 92 Jetta at Caledon mtrs.  This was labour only, I supplied the plugs.  Normally I would not have agreed to it - but I have not had time to do any work myself and I was quoted 70.00 for the job.  Is this around the going rate?
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Post by: burn_your_money on February 12, 2008, 12:48:04 pm
If you are quoted $70.00 in Ontario I believe they are only allowed to charge you 15% above that without first telling you.

I've never done glow plugs the traditional way (not removing the pump and doing t-belt) but I would guess it would take about 2 hours so it seems on par in that regards
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Post by: dieselsnowmobile on February 12, 2008, 04:37:36 pm
What?  I have done my glow plugs in and out in 30 minutes.
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Post by: 935racer on February 12, 2008, 06:17:24 pm
Its not too far out there, they are easy enough to do yourself, but for a shop, figure at least $10 a glow plug = $40, and lots of shop have a 1hr minimum, and if thats around $70-80 than that puts you around that quote.

Anyone who has done them before however will likely charge you sub $100 for parts and labor.
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Post by: 935racer on February 12, 2008, 06:20:58 pm
Sorry, missed the part about you supplying plugs, what is their hourly rate?

There seems to be some sort of problem, even for a mechanic, who hasn't done them before, shouldn't take more than 45 minutes. I am comfortable in doing them in under 20 minutes, and I remove the injector lines, but I have done them alot. See if their was some sort of issue with the job though, I know sometimes people tighten the crap out of injector union lines and the pump outlets can back out or the unions seize to the top of the injectors.
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Post by: burn_your_money on February 12, 2008, 08:36:49 pm
I guess I'm bad at guessing :lol:
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Post by: subsonic on February 12, 2008, 10:43:03 pm
Quote from: "935racer"
I am comfortable in doing them in under 20 minutes, and I remove the injector lines, but I have done them alot.


Ands thats the perfect amount of time to let your car cool off before the next pull on the dyno :twisted:
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Post by: 935racer on February 12, 2008, 11:22:46 pm
Quote from: "subsonic"
Quote from: "935racer"
I am comfortable in doing them in under 20 minutes, and I remove the injector lines, but I have done them alot.


Ands thats the perfect amount of time to let your car cool off before the next pull on the dyno :twisted:


 :wink:
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Post by: merc644 on February 14, 2008, 11:07:32 am
maybe the 52 extra was for the advertising license plate frame I found the next day :?
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Post by: jimfoo on February 14, 2008, 01:16:58 pm
Just put a big "Don't go to" on the top of it.  :P
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Post by: BlackTieTD on February 15, 2008, 01:00:50 am
Quote from: "merc644"
maybe the 52 extra was for the advertising license plate frame I found the next day :?


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

i'd cross that shop off the list
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Post by: giulianot on February 15, 2008, 11:13:31 am
ok I really didnt  want to post this but I think People here are entitled to know.  I used to work at caledon motors as a mechanical apprentice (many moons ago). I have witnessed this situation happen many times and they seem to uses this tactic to extract as much money from the costumer as they can. I dont understand how they keep getting away with gouging people.  A reputable garage would call first and approve any additional cost before doing the work. THEY DONT. So i would suggest to look for service elsewhere in the future.
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Post by: clbanman on February 16, 2008, 03:41:26 pm
The following quotes were taken from various Government of Ontario website pages:

Tim Hudak, Minister of Consumer and Business Services said: "I hope this case will remind consumers to always ask repair shops for written estimates, which must be provided upon request under Ontario law, before the work is started."

Under Ontario law, a car repair shop is required to offer you an estimate, unless you decline it. If a fee is charged for the estimate, the consumer must be told in advance what the cost is. If the repair shop proceeds with the work, it cannot charge a fee unless the authorization to do the work has been unreasonably delayed. Besides identifying the vehicle, the consumer and the repair shop, the estimate must include:

    * an exact description of the work to be done;
    * a list of the parts to be installed (whether they are new, used or reconditioned) and the price for each part;
    * the number of hours of labour to be billed (and how the labour is calculated, such as an hourly rate, a flat rate or some combination);
    * the total amount to be billed.

The total cost of repairs can’t exceed the amount in the estimate by more than 10 per cent.
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Post by: merc644 on February 18, 2008, 03:19:28 pm
Without a  doubt, I wont be going back.  I was at work and couldnt get a written estimate, I asked how much on the phone.  As frustrating as it can be to rip open your knuckles in the cold and invent new curse words, its more frustrating to get hosed and feel like a dupe.